after my wee spat with Medro over internet tv guess what I just saw... RT @ETimsNet If we PPV the rights to our home & away games around the world could we make more for ourselves & SPL teams than current SKY deal...? RT @ETimsNet RT @Pjbruce: @ETimsNet why not hand the rights 2 Celtic give us back all TV internet rights etc we sell on behalf of SPL and compensate ...
http://www.dutch-football.com/football/eredivisie/articles/eredivisie_tv_channel.shtml Sunday 27 July 2008 The Dutch football league is launching it's Eredivisie Live service on cable, digital terrestrial and IPTV networks on the first day of the new season, 29 August. A joint venture between Eredivisie CV, the media and marketing body formed by the 18 league football clubs, and production company Endemol, the new service has secured carriage deals with cable operators Ziggo and UPC, telco Tele2 and DTT/IPTV operator KPN. No agreement has so far been announced with satellite service Canal Digitaal. The financiers have agreed to pay the Dutch clubs a guaranteed €60m. Ziggo and UPC are both offering Eredivisie Live for a subscription fee of €9.95 a month (first three months will cost €6 for UPC subscribers). The service, consisting of four channels, will only be available to digital subscribers. UPC will offer matches on a pay-per-view basis to non-subscribers, with matches between big clubs like Ajax and FC Feyenoord costing €7 and other matches €5. KPN said it would offer two channels on its Digitenne digital terrestrial platform and on IPTV service KPN TV and one channel on mobile TV. Subscription tariffs will range from €10 to €15 per month.
It makes total sense. The viewing figures for the SPL are around the same as for the Super League on Sky. The super league gets MUCH more than the SPL. so either the people who negotiated the deal are idiots, or the people at sky are idiots for paying so much for the Super league. Some dopey clubs went for the Setanta deal and lumbered us with it. Celtic can get the job done. The other clubs know thins. If SKY ain't making it worthwhile. Celtic will. Advertisers can pay via region (Ireland, UK, Yoorup, America, Osstrailya, other) and really target their product for the online football watching Sellick fan It might prove more difficult, but It is a direct revenue stream that would surely be worth a few bob. Celtic selling me directly access to every Celtic game would get the money from me. No Question..
Show me the reserves, the girls, the 16's and 19's. Maybe throw in a Party Political broadcast here and there from Sinn Fein and you have got a product that people will pay for.
RL made the switch to summer rugby purely on the basis of the deal with sky. if RL was still played during the winter months the tv revenue they would get would be similar to the SPL. If scottish football moved to summer football then they may get a decent wedge off sky. until then sky will continue to pay very little. I agree tho that celtic would get far more money selling the tv rights to celtic games themselves, the wider issue would surround away games. Would celtic have the right to sell these games? what would stop say motherwell demanding 90% of any revenue for a game at their midden? on the reverse of that how much would we give motherwell for a game at celtic park?
Thats it exactly The SPL should do it themselves. Celtic can show them how and considering how poor the sky deal is to Celtic I'm sure going an even 12 way split wouldn't bother Celtic at all
I think that idea was floated before but some clubs bottled it when push came to shove and went for SKY instead.
It was actually the BBC that they went for. SPL tv would be a collosal flop IMO. Especially with the calibre of journeyman now in the league and with the anticipated exodus at Ibrox further diluting the quality of the league, Scottish football is dying.
I stand (well sit actually) corrected. By the way, the BBC highlights are a ****ing joke, not even 5 minutes of each game
I pay £19.99 a month for Celtic TV now anyway because it shows every single league game live (albeit I have to hide my IP through a VPN as they block UK). For years Celtic TV (or Channel67 as it were) had an official rule that you were only allowed to watch from outside the UK, but didn't actually prevent me with a UK card and a UK IP from signing up and watching the games live from within the UK. They would rather have me pay them 20 quid a month than get about 10p per Celtic fan Sky Subscriber. They finally blocked UK IP addresses earlier this year, I assume because Sky put pressure on them to do so. With the advent of the internet it's cheap to broadcast your own channel and now you can do it even in HD. With the £2m or whatever we get every season from Sky I don't think it's a huge risk to go it alone offering our own broadcasting deal to homes, pubs and clubs through our existing infrastructure.
Any transmission with the Rangers involved, even if it is only showing their matches is bound to fail. The world wide football audience would see anything with Rangers as been tainted. If Rangers are gone an no Newco with any known links to Rangers are allowed into the SPL, there is surely a future for the right broadcaster who goes to the trouble of putting on a good show. The proper number of camera's are needed and with commentators and other contributors prepared to give good honest non bias assessments of all the games broadcast.
Don't ask me to support my assertions because I can't. It is just what I believe. I don't think the SPL as a brand is as marketable as Celtic. I believe that if you make it a Celtic channel and showcase other clubs in the division then it is a viable idea. I am totally aware that this reeks of arrogance, I just happen to believe it to be true. Celtic u-19's playing Kilmarnock u-19's would be likely to garner a bigger audience than St Mirren against Inverness in the SPL. If that creates a league that exists solely to serve Celtic TV sharing out the profits with all other top flight sides then it would still have more integrity that the present set up and certainly more than a league that would allow a new club a free pass.
Sky called the shots and RL went with it. It has served the game well as far as I can tell. League of Ireland sides have fared better in Europe since the switch to summer football. Maybe that is something to be explored as well.
