So, havent been able to find this in the english language yet, but here's the link http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...usiv-red-bull-unterboden-illegal-4043971.html I'm sure someone can translate but from what i can work out, when Webber's car was up in the air at Monza, there were unexplained scratches on the underside of the floor, in front of where the FIA carry out the load test. The long and the short would appear that the front section of floor is moving downward, in effect a moving aero part, if this is the case and can be proved should they be stripped of points ? Is it in the spirit of the rules etc
It's against the spirit of the rules, but because it flexes before the measuring point, it's can't be declared as illegal. Further FIA incompetence I think.
Red Bull have out-Ferrari'd again. LOL I think Newey should start checking his brake lines before driving anywhere.
Although its dodgy (if true) its not illegal. The FIA could change the rules but they'd have a fight on their hands to punish Red Bull retrospectively. Not that they've had a problem in enforcing new laws on past events before Loop holes are the only way to develop the cars these days, the rules would basically make F1 a one make series if loopholes weren't found.
simple punishment...give seb the same points as JB and lets take it from there . To be fair to red bull they're smart and the other teams are unable to think like them and push the guidelines to the extreme limits. Credit to Red Bull as much as I don't want to say it.
Its amazing how they (the media) could forget that Webber drove with the broken wing beneath the car. How can there not be weird scratches? Thats to be expected after such a stunt.
I've thought for quite some time that it's been a question of who can interpret the rules best to be the winner, for the last few years it's been who can interpret the aero rules best, F1's rule book has stagnated development, especially in the area of power, all the engines are basically the same, there is no innovation at all, they're not allowed to innovate.
A big thing was made of teh wires and cables on Vettels front wing as well when it was hanging in the air. Could they rund down the supports and then to the end of the wings and through some techno mizardy, under a certain load in the pits are very strong and rigid, but out on the track allow flexing? Why else would you have wires/cables running through a front wing?
I thought the same thing. They have cameras mounted on the front wing. Apart from that I'm not sure. The flexing wing thing is quite a simple concept. Every material flexes, so the FIA can't ban flexing parts outright, they just set up tests to ensure a certain degree of rigidity. If you can lay up the carbon fibre to just pass the test, and then get the aerodynamic loads to exceed the loads the scrutineers place on them, the wing will flex. They could make the tests tougher to pass, but this could impact on all teams who's wings are a flexible as Red Bull's but don't generate enough downforce.
The scratches under the floor are not relevant as mentioned above. The wing went under the wheels. The cables issue is also irrelevant as they all have cables to connect cameras and possibly instrumentation. The evidence is in the television pictures. How can a static and non-flexing wing move down so much with the increase in speed of the car? It must deflect by nearly two inches. Why did SV's wing flex one way then the other as he tried to pass JB last year, resulting in him losing control and t-boning JB out of the race. Why can't the FIA and the Stewards see what everyone else can see? Finally at the other end of the car, what are the Red Bull team so paranoid about? Why do they stand around the back of the car to stop TV seeing what's there? The other teams drivers can look at the end of Qualifying when in Parc Ferme. Their secrecy and paranoia only increases the thoughts that they have soemthing to hide. And what is that hole in the rear of the floor as seen on Weber's car when in the air? Has anybody explained that?
