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First Flint says No

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  1. framptonfrank

    framptonfrank Active Member

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    Today Greece says No! Next year we tell the EU bully boys No No No!
     
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  2. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    YES out out out get the hell out of the EU nothing but a nightmare
     
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  3. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Politician's promises don't add up to a hill of beans and only time will give you the proper answer to your concerns as to whether their policies have a chance of working. So here are my answers to your questions even though I am not available for election.

    1. Has the EU been beneficial to the U.K. NONONONONO.
    2. Has the policy of wanting an ethnically diverse country worked. NONONONONO
    3 Has uncontrolled mass immigration has been beneficial. NONONONONO
    4. Do you approve of where the government has led NONONONONO

    To change the system please send your comments to the following address:

    Prime Minister
    10 Frowning St
    LaLaLand
    HOHOHO.

    I don't like Mondays but they have got better since I retired. Bah Humbug.

    Go City.
     
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  4. BCFCRob

    BCFCRob Well-Known Member

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    Disagree on the first point. It's pretty handy for travelling.
     
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  5. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'It's pretty handy for travelling'

    The only 'handy' use of the Channel Tunnel is for Migrants looking for handouts and militant French Unions.
     
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  6. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    European Union ??? - You're having a laugh.

    It's run for and by the French and Germans.
    The latest -
    Hollande and Merkel meet yesterday to discuss the 'way forward' with the Greek crisis.
    Today they'll tell the other members which way to vote.
    FFS - the French couldn't run a p*ss up in a Brewery.

    The Greeks got themselves in this fiscal mess.
    Now Merkel is calling all the shots but is it not ironic we let the Germans off a similar amount of debt after the war.
     
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  7. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    Redprintt yesterday -- "During the war"


    please log in to view this image
     
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  8. EnderMB

    EnderMB Well-Known Member

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    Make no mistake, Greece were ****ed over by creditors by offering debt the country could never service. By sharing austerity across poorer nations, the wealthier nations would benefit, and in turn the free market would allow European citizens to ply their trade anywhere in the EU.

    It sounds good in theory, but in extremes it doesn't work. Regardless of your thoughts on immigration, you'd be an idiot to not see that it is a problem that needs a proper solution. Additionally, prolonged austerity is not working for the poor, and if Greece fight back against it I think we'll see many others fight against it.

    Personally, I think leaving the EU is a mistake, purely because we're not the financial big-hitters we seem to believe we are. All the power is contained in London, and if London crashes the country crashes with it. However, sticking with the EU in its current situation also seems like a losing plan. I'd like to see a cap on austerity measures to ensure that no country is loaded with debt they cannot handle, and a dynamic border control that limits immigration to what each country can handle. Whether Germany and France agree to it is an entirely different thing.
     
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  9. invermeremike

    invermeremike Well-Known Member

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    Remember the old tale about who you would want to govern certain aspects of European society. How many of them came true. i.e. Germans as the engineers etc.
     
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  10. RedorDead

    RedorDead Well-Known Member

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    If Greece pull out of the Euro, then they will be bailed out by Russia. Once that happens then they have a base on the Med.
    Greece owe Germany something like 40 billion, they owe France not far off that, they owe us 10 billion. Given the amounts I would say that the Germans and French do have something more to worry about than us.

    Some interesting stats I saw the other day for the UK
    100 billion to disarm Trident
    85 billion lost in corporate tax
    1.2 billion lost in benefits to immigrants
    20 billion paid into this country by working immigrants

    And we seem to moan about the benefits?
     
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  11. Mind the gap!

    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    I'll be severely pissed off if my generations future is compromised by some racists and diluded people voting to leave the EU
     
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  12. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    You won't have time! You will be learning how to spell deluded correctly but in Arabic.
     
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  13. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Mind the gap !

    I promise, when you grow up you will think differently.
     
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  14. smhbcfc

    smhbcfc Well-Known Member

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    On balance I think we are better off in the EU than out of it, though def not in the Euro

    While successive Greek Goverment's have mismanaged their economy, I do think the EU needs to have far more empathy with their plight.

    Interesting that 95% of the money "loaned" to Greece has not gone to the Greek people but to prop up the currency and the banks (many of these banks are foreign)
     
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  15. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    Those of you wondering why Europe is being 'hardline' on Greece need to read the attached link.

    We don't want to pay any taxes, we want to borrow your money (yes, some of it is ours!) but We don't want to go the bother of actually paying it back or tightening the purse strings in order to make an effort to pay to back.. Sorry very little 'empathy' from me.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8509244.stm
     
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  16. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'Sorry very little 'empathy' from me'

    None whatsoever from me - or Victor.
     
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  17. Mind the gap!

    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    No I just have read the facts that immigrants contribute more to our society than they take out. Also millions of jobs will be lost by big corporations leaving the UK if we leave such as finance sectors, our largest industry!
     
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  18. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    What difference would it make to financial institutions in London whether we are in Europe or not, we are not trading in euros here anyway and the city of London is the 3rd (?) biggest financial centre in the world.. What will make them leave would be the punitive tax measures that many wish to place on them for their past mis-practices and greed.. another debate altogether but being in the EU is not going to affect it,, HSBC has already threatened to relocate for just those reasons..
     
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  19. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'immigrants contribute more to our society than they take out'

    Big business love immigrants on minimum wage, the Unions and the rest of you lefties will get it eventually.
    The rate of immigration puts huge pressure on houses and roads, a few more years of uncontrolled immigration and we'll have gridlock.
    You might be happy in school, when you come out of the clutches of your lefty teachers you might get it.
    We were all 'red' at 21 years old but you grow up in the real world.

    And don't listen to ex Rock Stars living in their fantasy world in the south of France.
    Sorry Rickster <laugh>
     
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  20. Mind the gap!

    Mind the gap! Well-Known Member

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    Well raise minimum wage, don't surpress unions and actually bloody build houses and infrastructure instead of blaming every ****ing problem on immigrants.

    But no we don't because every selfish righty wants to exploit people on minimum wage and protect the bullshit greenbelt so that their house price can rise.
    Because it's not their problem.
     
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