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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

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    This link doesn't exactly fill me with joy.... thoughts?

    http://thespectatorsview.com/2015/07/29/newcastle-linked-with-southampton-flop/

    According to ESPN FC, Newcastle United are considering a move for 23 year-old Benfica midfielder Filip Djuricic.
    Djuricic, who was loaned out to Premier League rivals Southampton in January for the remainder of the 2014/15 season, failed to live up to his billing at St Mary’s Stadium. Ronald Koeman declined to push forward with any attempts to make the loan deal permanent this summer.
    During his formative years, the midfielder was something of a teenage prodigy in his home country of Serbia. At the age of 16, with a host of Europe’s biggest clubs hot on his tail, he was invited to a 10-day trial with Manchester United, where he rubbed shoulders with Fabio Capello, Marcel Desailly and Jose Mourinho.
    When told of probable work-permit issues likely leading to prolonged loans away from Manchester United, Djuricic opted out, and instead remained at his hometown club of Radnički Obrenovac, before signing with Heerenveen in 2010.
    After an impressive three years in Holland (a stint which saw him face our very own Steve McClaren, who was managing FC Twente at the time), he signed for Benfica.
    Reports in Portugal have suggested that he is now surplus to requirements at Benfica and, in spite of supposedly having a €40m buy-out clause in his contract, it is likely he’ll be allowed to leave for far less than that.
    Newcastle’s transfer priorities still remain in bolstering the centre of our defence, and increasing our attacking options. Nevertheless, we have been linked with midfielders all summer, and it is possible that Newcastle boss Steve McClaren is still looking to add some creativity to our midfield ranks.
    Whether there are legs in this transfer link remains to be seen, but until that window shuts at midnight on Tuesday 1st September, all we can do is sit and wait.
     
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  2. Lord Jonjomort

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    Cheap, young enough to sell on, injured a lot so price is loooooooow......you got yourself a deal, buddy.
     
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  3. Graham Carr's Binoculars

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    Spent 27m on two players, both with no previous when it comes to injuries and yet apparently we only sign cheap, injury prone players <doh>
     
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  4. Lord Jonjomort

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    First, Wijnaldum is younger than Cabaye was when he came. As I have said before, the goalposts have moved - £13m might not be peanuts, but it's far from busting a bank with £80m in it, is it? And are we thinking "yeah, here's our captain for the next decade" or are we thinking "well, look at how much he could be worth at 26"?? Leopards and spots, man, come on. Mitrovic is 20 and actually cost us around £8m if you check Press Association announcements. And again, are you expecting him to repeat Shearer's efforts, or are we again anticipating a sale?

    Look, no point in arguing, we are both beholden to 1st Sept before real opinions count. Let's hope we bring in two more and only let dross leave, but I'm not sure.
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    We had him on loan last year and although we didn't see that much of him there's definitely something there imo, I think our agreed fee was £9m which most people agreed was too much of a gamble for what we had seen. If you can get him for a decent fee though you could have a little gem on your hands.
     
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    Do you think the same of Southampton? They've signed Clasie, a young RB and a young Spanish forward and they have a tendency to sell their best players.

    It's just how it is now mate, any team outside of the top 6 has to buy young, first because yeah if we can 28m for Mitro or Wijnaldum we'll sell them and buy 3 or 4 players with it. It's the only way to progress. I'd much rather a 24 year old Wijnaldum than a 28 year old Payet for 15m.

    If we sign players the wrong side of 30 we'll get no sell on value, they're more likely to get injured and in a few years they'll need replacing and there will be less money in the pot to replace them and we'll get in a situation like Sunderland. Signing 8 or 9 players every summer, all on big wages and fighting relegation year after year. You have to credit it the club so far this summer, we have three signed that could all be with us for 10 years, and if they aren't with us for 10 years chances are that we'll have cashed in handsomely giving us money to reinvest.
     
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  7. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

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    It's all very sexy, if you're an accountant. However most of us are not interested in the financial aspect, aside from noting all the money we make doesn't go back into making the club better.

    We want to see performances on the pitch, not the players as liquid assets. Unfortunately, we categorically have not done enough so far to make great strides, while teams around us have gone out and made 6/7 signings which improve their squad and first-team.

    I know you're an optimist GCB, but guaranteed you'll agree with me after the first couple of months of the season.
     
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  8. Lord Jonjomort

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    I'm sorry, didn't Southampton just finish a great season with excellent, exciting football and the prospect of the Champions League up til the last couple of months when it was just too much? Haven't they enjoyed European nights and NOT had a meltdown? Chalk and cheese compared to Lee Charnley's Newcastle United, matey. I have no issue at all with selling players for more than they're worth - but where is our progress? We've only JUST replaced Cabaye - last Summer when So'ton lost a few like Lallana and Lambert, they INSTANTLY went and bought Tadic, Mane and Pelle. Their academy is miles ahead of ours. Like I say, it's a ludicrous comparison that only serves to further highlight the flaws in our "bare minimum" policy, which is all we are.

    What I am asking for is some of the cash that's generated to be spent on proven talent preferably from these shores; Shawcross, Austin, Townsend, et al. Not world beaters, but not the constant offshore gambling we seem to partake in. Yes, pre-season is no great guide, but we've been garbage and have yet to field a back four without Bigirimana in it. I mean, how many clues do the club need? And we're pinning everything on a 20/24/26 year old from the J-League?! One player, for a back four that was more or less the worst in the league last year? Almost the worst in the entire football league?!

    We have Pardew-esque soundbytes about "happy with what I've got" and an invisible Charnley as usual. I'm sorry, it just looks EXACTLY THE SAME to me.
     
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    Which teams?

    I can't see how it can be said we've not done good business so far, we've signed 3 talented players and lost none of our best players. Is it enough? Not yet but all of the sound bites are that we're in the market for at least two more.

    Also, the players we've signed are better than what we already have, they haven't been signed to bulk the squad out. All three will be in the first 11 meaning our bench becomes stronger because players that were starting last year such as Cabella, Cisse etc will likely not be in the first team.
     
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    Villa, Stoke, Palace, West Ham etc have all made multiple acquisitions. Because we're in this bubble of "oh for a change we've signed 3 players", we forget that all the other teams have spent money on improving their teams. They have ridiculous TV money too, and out of those, only Villa have made massive profits on players like us.

    We have signed 3 players with potential. We have a squad of utter **** though, and the vast majority needs to be replaced. 3 players is like pissing in the wind.
     
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    Palace have signed Cabaye & McCarthy, Villa have signed a load of French B team players, something we get slated for. West Ham have signed Payet and not much else. Come on, you have to do better than that. You're whinging but we're no different to anyone else apart from that our net spend is the 5th biggest so far in the league.
     
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    And where, exactly, has it been for the last 5 seasons?

    Palace have signed lots of really useful players who boost their squad (including Bamford on loan, who I will bet you right now will be as useful as Mitrovic in terms of goals), as have Villa (new defence) and West Ham. Our squad is genuine squalid dogshit and we've signed potential. We desperately need some quality, in areas we have been ****ing begging for for the last 3 years. 2 X CB, LB, 2 X Winger. WHERE THE **** ARE THESE PLAYERS? Has the world run out of them?

    I also notice you made no mention of Stoke's signings. Why are we always behind Stoke FFS? The Britannia, for crying out loud, hosts a bigger club than St James' park.... It's a joke.
     
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    So Palace have signed Bamford (on loan may I add), unproven at Prem level and not even their player. West Ham have signed loads of useful players? They've signed Payet, Obiang and Ogbonna, no different to our three except two of their are approaching 30. Villa have signed Micah Richards and then nothing but unproven French players. As for stoke, they've signed joselu for 6m, Glenn Johnson <laugh> and Affelay on a free whilst losing Nzonxi and Begovic. Seriously, you can't be envious of any of the above surely?

    It's laughable that some people are in such a meltdown about transfers.
     
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    Why are you so concerned with age? Long-term sustainability of Mike's profit sheets means **** all to me mate. Whether they're 30 or 23, they'll both play at most 2 years for their respective teams. If these lads are here for the next decade of this club, it means they were so ****ing **** nobody else wanted them.

    It's laughable, I agree, because I'm sure you were spinning the exact same story last year when we signed Cabella. I admire your optimism, but those saying exactly the same thing as me, we have recent history on our side.
     
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    Mike Williamson will be 30 when he line up against So'ton, alongside Colo who turns 34 this year. No-one's bothered about age, we're all bothered about ability. We're back where we were - an injury to Mike Williamson and straight off the bat someone's playing out of position. An injury to Janmaat isn't even worth thinking about.

    Lee Charnley is not fit for purpose, never will be. Like Carver, he will not be at a bigger club for the rest of his days. In fact, where is Mort? Llambias? Kinnear? Carver? People we deem - or Ashley deems - suitable for very senior roles at a Premier League club are somehow not required by the rest of the football world. What the fck does that tell you about NUFC?
     
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    We currently have Wiliamson, Colo, Taylor, Lascelles & Mbemba. So an injury to Williamson and we'll replace with another CB.

    I'll gladly accept that Lascelles should only be 4th choice and that Williamson shouldn't be an option.However, if we sign another CB that will give us Mbemba, NEW CB, Colo & Taylor. with Lascelles learning his trade.

    Our fans make me laugh, complain that expectations shouldn't be more than top 10 but then whinge that we don't have two equal players for each position, the very thing that only the top four teams have.

    My point still stands, no other team outside the top 6 has done better business than us. Stoke have lost two of their best players (Begovic & Nzonzi), as have Villa (Vlaar & Benteke,) West Ham have done similar business to us but I'd prefer our three over their three. Southampton have just signed Caulker on loan, he's got relegated in teams that have conceded the most goals in both seasons, they've signed Clasie who is very good but I wouldn't have him as the same ability as Wijnaldum. And then they've signed an unproven foreign RB and Striker. Not to mention they've lost Clyne & Schneiderlin. Everton have signed Cleverley <laugh>. Leciester & Norwich have done next to nothing and Sunderland have signed a good player in Lens, Coates has never pulled up any trees and Kaboul has barely played for two years.

    We've lost nobody of any value yet and signed three players that will go in to (and strengthen) our first 11. We're also being told by every football journalist out there that we're still looking to do more business.

    Forgetting the past, since we're discussing this window, how can it be described as anything but solid so far?
     
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    So I get where you're coming from, but I've pulled out three points of your post that we will continue to disagree on until Sept 1st. Due to the past - one cannot ignore history when predicting the future - we appear unlikely to sign another CB as we've "spent" all of our money.

    Again, in the past we have a track record of selling players for a fair sum of money; there is still nothing that doesn't make me think Mitrovic is Cisse's replacement, Wijnaldum is Sissoko's and Mbemba is Colo's (in waiting). I currently fear we are simply waiting to sell all three, plus potentially more.

    The last point, forgetting the past, will only be possible if we end the transfer window with a squad competent enough to realistically get us to 10th. If that becomes our history, as in we truly invest and strengthen, then your comments will hold an awful lot more water.
     
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  18. Howe's about that then?

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    I'm with you on this one buddy, I'm looking forward to the new season.
    I will concede defence still needs sorting but I think it will be and I think we'll do alright.
    We haven't lost anyone of any worth ... Yet.
    Got 3 new signings and, to quote an unpopular saying, de Jon and Aaron's will be like 2 new signings. People may not like hearing that but it doesn't stop it being true.
    In summary we've lost nobody and have 5 who didn't feature last season
     
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