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FFP bites .. Malaga banned .. next chelsea & city

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  1. shwan

    shwan Well-Known Member

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    Liga - Malaga receive Financial Fair Play ban from Europe
    Spanish club Malaga have been banned from future European competition for at least a season because of unpaid bills.
    The ban does not apply this season but will take effect the next time that the Qatari-owned club qualifies for European competition in the next four years, UEFA said in a statement.
    The ban will be extended for a further season unless Malaga can prove by the end of March that they have settled outstanding payments to other teams, staff and tax authorities. Malaga have also been fined 300,000 euros.
    Malaga are in the last 16 of this season's Champions League where they will meet Porto.
    Croatian clubs Hajduk Split and NK Osijek, Romanian sides Rapid Bucharest and Dinamo Bucharest and Serbian outfit FK Partizan have also received the same suspension, plus a fine of €100,000 each (€80,000 for Split).
    The punishment underlines that UEFA is serious about enforcing Financial Fair Play rules that are being phased in.
    The rules will mean that clubs will ultimately have to move towards balancing their books or face exclusion from European competition.
    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/liga-malaga-receive-financial-fair-play-ban-europe-142302651.html
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    hhhh and people were thinking UEFA were joking
     
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  2. Ivor Biggun

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    Naysayers will say "Malaga! lets seem them try and ban Real Madrid or Barcelona"

    All the while oblivious to the flaw in their logic.
     
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  3. Style

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    They can't afford there bills I know lets fine them!

    It's not like city or anyone will have that problem either.
     
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  4. shwan

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    real and Barca are not buying big names anymore since a couple of years .. and barca did make 40m profit last season while Real did 21m profit , both had profits too the season earlier, so they will enver be out
    is only City, Chelsea, PSG who will struggle
     
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    Yeah but they won't struggle to pay there bills.
     
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    is not about not paying the bill
    UEFA could had given them a fine , sure solution is not to stop them earning more money to pay the debts or money they owe
    it actually make more sense to give them a fine and let them in CL to ensure 30m to pay the debts

    UEFA actually said clubs not complying with FFP will banned , they confirmed that recently after getting EU legal approval of the law
    and don't forget UEFA want to stop the culture of clubs relying on their owners, imagine if Abra or City owner died or get bankrupted .. they will not be able to pay wages as well
     
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    possibly the most naive comment ever written, do you know how many are involved with the City ownerS? Roman's son is his successor too. It'd be the same with any club shwan, including United.
     
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    that must be one of most naive reply i read
    what if Abra son don't fancy chelsea and want another toy <doh> .. what if he was arrested or died while traveling with his dad and both died
    and pls i know gulf countries well, worked there .. they will leave you dried like what happened to Malaga or Portsmouth when losing interest
     
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    see now your trying to be technical after your moronic comment, watch his son's reaction after Drogba scored the CL winning penalty <ok>. Do you think all their money just gets buried with them? <doh>

    what you're rambling on about is called wishful thinking, stop being a tool.
     
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    don 't be naive .. we are talking about a law here to protect clubs and players, that is why FFP been introduced not for individual cases, may be you are right in chelsea case, but UEFA can't guaranty that same will happen for other clubs when owners die or bankrupt or lose interest , that is why the law been introduced and clubs will be punished

    hhh is not me who is in wishful thinking but you if you think you can get away with it
     
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    not denying FFP shwan, your point just didn't make sense with all the 'what ifs'
     
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    but we are talking about a law here mate.. sure individual cases are irrelevant
     
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    It is good to see they're taking FFP seriously, but Drogs is right when he says there's a lot of wishful thinking in this thread. Its a big leap of faith to jump to Chelsea and City from Malaga. They were just so deep in **** they couldn't dig themselves out. Chelsea would have seen these rules coming for years and id be stunned if they haven't found a way to comply.
     
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    are you suggesting Abra should had abandoned chelsea then if he felt is a dead end? sure not he will try his best till last moment and see how serious UEFA are.... tbh many clubs were hopeful to challenge UEFA for breaching EU rules & trading and even UEFA was not sure, but in march 2012 UEFA make it a law and getting EU approval , and UEFA declare it a big victory for FFP and a big step to go ahead without a fear

    going back to chelsea, well they did now cut the team size massively, the bench look pathetic now.. they finally get first profit last season by cutting spending and team depth and i assure you that is the way it will goes from now on in chelsea
    am sure going out of CL was an unanticipated financial disaster, and am sure now they will be forced to sell may be more players to balance the book

    regarding if UEFA will have the balls to kick alike of City or chelsea, well UEFA care less to kick out City ... they are useless anyway in CL, actually Malaga are doing better than City , PSG same thing
    so I think is only Chelsea are the Club that UEFA may hesitate to ban, but chelsea themselves are cutting the team further and further every year trying to balance the book, so they are where we want them now .. remember no one want to ban Chelsea here, and as long as they can life by their own means, that is same results as been banned
     
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    I think, Uefa will kick the smaller clubs like ££££, Chavs and PGS long before the likes of UTD, RM and Barca, as they are the 3 teams that bring in the most money for Uefa, so can only wait and see what happens with the small boys.
     
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  17. Ivor Biggun

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    I doubt Chelsea have to sell to balance the books like City will but your right about pathetic squad depth. They could only register 21 players because they lacked enough homegrown talent for this year and with Lampard/Cole on their way out they'll be down to 19 players. If they sell Sturridge it'll be 18! 18! that's barely a first team and bench. Still at least they'll be able to call on their under 21's.... oh wait! they don't develop any.

    Either way you have to laugh when you see Chelsea fans go on about signings like Falco, it'll be more like Walcott.
     
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    Not that big a leap tbh. Malaga had a sugar daddy who just stopped investing when the club faced some difficulties. Not impossible to see the same happen to City and Chelsea, tho both are in a much better situation so would probably be able to survive and pay the bills with a quick fire sale.
     
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  19. shwan

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    chelsea win CL (extra 30m less this season) + spend more on players .. remember last season they merely had 1m profit even with 30m injection of CL and not buying players, UEFA could be tolerant with clubs reducing their losses massively and may give them a chance (a year or two) if they showed they are cutting their losses and going to the right direction, so they slap them with a fine, chelsea can't go backward now and show a loss of 30-40m just one year after balancing their books, spending on alike of Falco in Jan will be a suicide, but i can see them getting rid of Lampard/Cole to free some funds and trying to sign Walcott this January and possibly Falco but only by next summer just to check the water with UEFA and check if they can afford him once clearing up the big wages of Lampard/Cole.
     
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    exactly <ok> they live dangerously, and UEFA introduced FFP to make clubs more independent and immune when things fkd up, so we don't stop losing big name clubs in the future
     
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