I don't believe he is. I think it all comes down to style of play. at Liverpool he was on the shoulder of last defender all the time. if you notice Chelsea when they attack allways end up with 5 or six players in the box .and he uses the channels to much.maybe Rafael has changed this. but these were my recent observation.
I find it amusing that Torres is getting so much stick despite having eleven goals to his name this season. Not bad for an out of form player!
Its just that not long ago he was on 11 goals in total for Chelsea. Still, he played the worst champions league team at home and then against team in the worst form.
Next he'll score a hat trick against the local Chavski school kids and people will herald him as being in the form of his life with 7 goals in 3 Keep it up, Nando!
But if you want the wages of a £50 million player I'd expect a whole lot better than he has shown so far. 11 goals and he should have had double that. He's been ****e 85% of the time at Chavski. As with any big money signing (including Mandy) he gets judged as a player who cost an insane amount of cash and is paid an insane amount in wages. The evil Torres was twice the price of the evil Van Persie and his return will probably end up less come the end of the season.
comparison is between carroll and torres. carroll is now the biggest failure. I dont think liverpool will get more than 5mil for carroll. Chealsea can afford to spend 50 mil. Liverpool cant afford to waste 35 mil. Carroll is thrown out of team at the time Liverpool had only one striker left.
I agree. It's embarrasing that Carroll can't hit form when he's been sitting on the medical table most the season
Obviously he hasn't been as good as expected but my point was he has eleven goals despite the common thought of him being out of form. Just because he moved for £50m does not mean he should be scoring 40+ goals a season either, the transfer fee isn't the players fault.
What do you mean by it's not his fault? He asked for the move. He knew we'd demand mega bucks if he wanted to leave straight away. Granted he didn't negotiate the exact amount but he knew it'd be ****ing huge. Torres then signed the contract knowing what the fee was and the size of the fistful of roubles he was getting. Players hide behind the "my agent sorted it, I just signed it" excuse all the time. If you sign for a £50 mill fee and are willing to accept hundreds of thousands A WEEK then you better be prepared to work your ass off to earn it. You should be prepared to work twice as hard as anyone else and not sulk like a baby when everything isn't hunky dory. You should be willing to accept that you're under a bloody big microscope and that people will criticise you more than others if you don't perform as one of, if not the top player in the team. Abramovich didn't buy the lad to score two against some Danish pub team or the worst performing team in the Prem. He bought him to score against them AND the likes of City, United, Liverpool, Arsenal etc and to push them towards dominating league and Europe. So far he's been a total flop in that respect (unless you can persuade me it was his form that fluked them Big Ears last year). Benitez may well get the best out of him from this point on but so far in his short Chavski career he's made himself a laughing stock and come across as little more than a spoiled, sulky brat
11 goals by Torres; Scored opening goal in FA Community Shield but lost 2-3 to Man City Put Chelsea ahead with 3rd goal in 4-2 win against Reading in Premier League Scored 2nd goal in 2-0 win against Newcastle in Premier League Scored 5th goal in 6-0 win against Wolves in Premier League Scored opening goal in 1-2 win against Arsenal in Premier League Scored equaliser in 4-1 win against Norwich in Premier League Scored opening goal in 3-2 win against Shakhtar Donetsk in Champions League Scored 2 goals in 6-1 win against Nordsjaelland in the last (and meaningless) Champions League group game Scored opening goal and penalty in 1-3 win against relegation candidates Sunderland in Premier League I would say that is 6 good goals in 25 appearances this season. Not great, not appalling.
Lots of overreaction to him scoring a couple of goals, lets see how he gets on for the rest of the season before judging him.
Seems to me that there a few in here that are desperate to see him fail and they are prepares to twist his stats to suit
You can't blame them. Most of us are still hurting from the way he left and the comments he came out with after and because of that (and the fact he's playing for your "rivals") you want him to do badly as it also means the team may do badly. Players like Kuyt, Bellamy etc you want them to do well as they weren't as good as players but they left on good terms and still have love for the club like a fan would. He's scored goals this season without being spectacular and looking at the teams he's scored against and the situations he's scored in you'd have to say he's been alright but not sensational. Scoring the 4th and 5th in a 6-0 win for example is far less important than scoring 1 in a 1-0 win. If you compare to Suarez you can see how important the goals are to the teams they play for. Would you for example rather a player score 15 goals in a season that all come in 1-0 wins (effectively winning you 15 games) or a player scoring 20 goals however half of them are the 3rd or 4th goal in 4-0 wins (effectively only doing good for goal difference and not the result).
