Feckin Bring on Man Utd!!!!

Raylor should definitely be dropped, his 2 massive errors against City were far from his first of the season.

 

Krul
Simpson Saylor Colo Raylor
Sammy Tiote Cabaye Guti
Ben Arfa
Ba

You say save Tiote for Chelsea, but it would be better to give him a match before Chelsea to get back into his game. Ober as an impact sub would be good if he's fit. If Raylor ****s up again, then we can replace. Replacing him after one game without a chance to redeem himself would be unfair. What if he scores a free-kick or has a defensive solid game, we wouldn't know unless he plays.

 

He doesn't deserve to be dropped, and it was one error. It's not like he could help it when the ball struck his hand, and if his hand hand't have been there the ball would have ended up in the back of the net anyway...

2nd one was inexcusable, but not enough to see him dropped.

1 week he scores a cracking goal, next week he makes an error and people are calling for him to be dropped.....

 

To be fair the first one was his fault as well, asking for trouble if you have your arms flailing about like that when a shot's about to be hit.

And goals arent necessary to be a good defender, they're a bonus.

 

Team for Man Utd should revert back to the original 4-4-2 and the same players.

Krul

Simpson Taylor Coloccini Raylor

Obertan Cabaye Tiote Gutierrez

Ba Best

Ben Arfa was poor against City overall, I'm sorry but a decent through ball and a scuffed shot that hit the post doesn't make up for the fact that he gave the ball away almost every time he got and looked shockingly devoid of ideas going forward, grinding to a halt at times, don't get me wrong, I rate him but hes not ready to be starting these kind of big games, hes not willing to put in a shift defensively and he seems to care more about being clever than grafting, hopefully Pardew can get the right kind of attitude into him.

Guthrie was OK against City but Cabaye was my MOM, he was absolutely fantastic at times, he broke the play up just like Tiote does and was the main component in the rare times we managed to get our passing game going, to drop Cabaye and keep Guthrie in the team is simply ludicrous and the kind of things managers lose their jobs for.

Say whatever you want about Obertan but the guy is very good at keeping the ball at his feet, he relieves a lot of pressure from the defence which is exactly what we need against the big boys, what he does going forward is secondary because we probably wont get many breaks against Man Utd anyway, but hes shown that hes slowly making the step up with a few very dangerous runs and a couple of assists before his injury.

Another thing to take into consideration is the fact that against higher class defences Demba Ba up front on his own will be doubled up and wont get much joy being the lone striker, this is why I would like Best to come back in provided hes fit, he works tirelessly up front and gives great support to Demba, we need hard working players in the team.

I think we have enough about us to get a point at Old trafford, and I'm going with a 1-1.

 

It only looks bad in slow motion. In real time, he had his arm out for about a second, and it sometimes happens when you're defending in the box like that. You sometimes don't think about where your arms are. It's not like he had 5 seconds to think about it, it was split second stuff.

The ball was struck with considerable power and it would have gone in anyway.

He shouldn't be dropped. He had a worse game vs QPR all round IMO. The amount of times SWP got in was very alarming, but he carried on playing, and most of his performances so far have been very good.

He's been better than Simmo IMO.

 

He had a poor game for sure, sloppy play for the first penalty and the second goal, I wouldn't drop him yet either though, and being better than Simpson isn't hard, I genuinely think Perch could do just as good a job as Simpson does the majority of the time, although Simpson was good against City I thought.

 

Ben Arfa was one of our better players v City, he played 80% successful passes (as well as 3 tackles) and created our best two chances of the game, one for himself and one for Ba. Best has been working hard but had gone 6 games without scoring, with Ba playing behind him.

 

Cabaye made only one successful tackle all game as well, that's not close to Tiote's usual contribution.

 

He was the only one that really threatened city at all though. He did more in his two magical moments than any one else did in the whole game. The whole team was below average tbh. The center mids could do **** all, Ba was basically doing his best to make something from hoofballs.

Cabaye motm? Are you smoking crack? He did **** all creative wise. You may say Ben Arfa lacked ideas going forward, but what did Guthrie and Cabaye create? Nowt really. Guthrie caught a Man City player in possession, made a good run into the box forced Hart to make a great save, but apart from that he didn't do a lot. Cabaye was a wandering Jew for most of the game. Some good defending, but nowt creative.

Ben Arfa was the only player that truly made city **** themselves. He made a good run and played a lovely reverse ball to set up a chance that Ba should have really put away. And he didn't really scuff his shot, he was just trying to be too clinical and instead of just belting it, he tried to place it.

He showed some good skill, and he didn't lose it almost every time he had it, he distributed it well at times.

You can't really have too much of a go at Ben Arfa when the whole team was basically over run.

It was his first start back and against the best league side in the world at the moment, in terms of their current form.

 

I have been wanting Raylor dropped for the majority of the season, he has made too many mistakes this season and is not good enough. He also restricts Jonas to defensive duties.

It was Raylors fault for having his arms out, it was idiotic.

From the top of my head Raylor has been at fault for 2 goals at City, 1 at Blackburn and had a ****e game against QPR, Wolves, and City as well as errors that have forced some last ditch defending and/ or stunning Krul saves.

 

Sorry but I didn't think he was particuarly good at all, Cabaye was my personal MOM.

Best might not be scoring but hes got 3 assists in the time he hasn't scored, more than anyone else in the team.

 

Wouldnt you agree that Ben Arfa is a much more creative player than Best though, if we arent playing him for the goals? He didnt see much of the ball playing high up, did well when he got it IMO.



Just reading through the stats, Saylor made 5 blocks in the match and the rest of the team combined made 1!

 

Him and Colo are the masters of interceptions.

 

Saylor was brilliant all game. Was nice to see him get praised on Soccer Saturday too. Albeit begrudgingly.

 

this.

We all know that Pardew will name an unchanged team though!

 

Reading it through again I was a tad harsh on Ben Arfa but I still dont think he had a particularly good game, the reason I was so impressed with Cabaye was more about his movement off the ball, he pressed very well in the midfield and on the rare occasions we had possession he was the one controlling our passing and tempo, he didnt play fantastic by any means, but he was the best one on the field in my eyes, followed closely by Stevie T.

In theory Ben Arfa is the more creative player out of him and Best, but Best has done a lot this season (3 goals and 4 assists overall) and if hes fit he should play IMO, he link up play with Ba has won us so many points already this season, I know its early days but Ben Arfa hasn't done anything like that and doesn't put in anywhere near the effort levels that Best does.

So generally I stick with my views and my Man Utd team selection.

 

Quite annoying having 3 attacking options that you cant play together isnt it? I think Ben Arfa off Best would be class, we're unlikely to see it until the ACON.

 

Agree with this, Raylor got found out this weekend, his positioning hasn't been good and Micah Richards took full advantage of it and made him look a mutt all game. Totally paniced everytime Richards came near him. Time for a LB to play at LB.

 

SWP absolutely raped Raylor earlier in the season but he bounced back.