Just the other day I was going through the Rumors and transfers thread and one thing that caught my attention was how Porto have managed to make a massive fortune from the sale of their players yet still manage to stay competitive. At the top of my head there is AVB -15M as compensation Anderson 18M Pepe Maniche Fereira Deco the list goes on Currently in their squad they have player like Hulk who should he leave will attract a considerable fee. The question is what do they do different to say a club in England. Do they have restrictions such as the one for Fifa Rankings? That said they do seem to scout some technically gifted players and what can Liverpool learn from them?
What they dont do is pay over the odds for players who've had one good year of first team football, but ya shouldn't need to look to anybody but yourselves to learn that lesson
1. they compete in a league where they have no competition really. 2. they know they are big fish in a small pond and players will leave. 3. their league emphasises skill not physicality. when you add all that up you get a team who is quite comfortable in selling and knows it will be in cl each year so can replace those players by attracting the hulks who are after not not ronaldihos, ronaldos, neymars etc. however if you contrast them to say ajax who should be basically identical to them in another country you can see they are doing a very good job. (as for the robledo character, if he can't even come up with an answer he should be just laughed at, which i did heartily)
Bollocks!! Most clubs have made that error Arsenal - Francis Jeffers, Richard Wright Man City - Santa Cruz, Chelsea - Mutu, SWP Man Utd - Jordi Cryuff, Karel Poborski, David Bellion and thats just off the top of my head. Stop being a pathetic wum and add something to the thread ffs. As for Porto.. I'd imagine that they have some sort of deal with brazilian sides, they probably have the best academy in portugal (who as a country probably invest a lot in football) and the best coaches. They get first dibs on everything
Portuguese teams have a MASSIVE advantage that work permit regulations for South American players are a lot less strict than elsewhere.This means they can buy the best uncapped S American talent.And sell them on at a massive profit
Arent they normally involving part owned players much like the Italian Teams?Therefore they arent taking as much of a gamble on buying them initially, i could be wrong on this and mixed up with some other team though.
Ya they can, Ribas Diego was just barely, i think maybe a1 cap or 2, for brazil before he went to Porto, became big and got sold on to Werder for a hefty price. I think Iturbe will be another one, no one has heard of him...... yet.
That and south american players tend to fit in better in portugal/spain due to the climate whilst earning citizenship/work permits.That said porto are in a good position for when the FFPR come in unlike their spanish counterparts Barca/Real(in theory they are in tonnes of debt).
I think also instead of trying to compare Porto to everyone else, let's look at just the portuguese league. Sporting, Benfica, and porto are always tops with braga the sort of new boy in the mix. Porto have managed to sustain being there battling for trophies pretty much all the time since Mourinho, with benfica right behind them. Sporting however are reknowed for their academy yet have been slipping off massively and been investing in oversees talent a bit more. Shame as Sporting used to produce top class players and still can but seem off the pace from the other two. Braga is one who uses the nationalize rule to great effect. They head off to brazil and get the best unknowns and bring them back. i think when we played them last year they had something like 8-11 were brazilian in the starting line-up. Porto do seem well ahead of the other "big" teams with only Benfica really there to continually push them.
In addition to the other points, their league is the ideal place to blood youngsters/unknown players, you get far more time on the ball and there's less pressure from the media. When a young player is signed by a big club over here there is a lot more scrutiny on them in their first season, whilst they're trying to adapt to a high paced, physical game that not many players are used to and few adapt to quickly.
i understand that Wumming for the sake of it is pointless and the person you referring to was prolly on a wind up...but the biggest diffrence between that list of players and Carroll is that everybody bar LFC could see that Carroll is going to no way live up to a 35 million price tag even before the purchase had been made...all the above mentioned had some form of success at a high level...foreign league..international etc...apart from Bellion...heard of him dont think much of him though.
they had bids rejected http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/71276.html I'm sure 'arry doesn't mind that much now though
my point is that Carroll is not a 35 mill player and everyone knew it..however he was when you purchased him woth around 13 mill in todays market....wheeler dealer would not have paid more than that or therabouts...
I thought you bid 22 mil for him? Not trying to wind, just thought that you did bid but we went higher?
dona... i have to point out that most could see jeffers was not that good and AT the time 12mil was more than enough to compare to carroll. carroll at 35mil was too much but hey........
We didn't buy Carroll in the summer, so that makes no sense. And anyway, the biggest transfer flop ever has to be Bebe. He was available on a free transfer 5 weeks before signing for Man Utd for £7m.
Do you really think Bebe at £7m is more of a flop than Andy Carroll at £35m? Not even trying to wind you up but come on mate.
