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'Fan led' review of football

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Nov 25, 2021.

  1. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Posted in match fred this morning but as mentioned probably wprth own one -Review of English football commissioned after super league has released its findings - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59406087

    Summary of main recommendations:

    • The government should create a new independent regulator (IREF)
    • IREF should oversee financial regulation in football
    • IREF should establish new owners' and directors' tests
    • A new corporate governance code should be set up
    • Equality, diversity and inclusion plans should be mandatory for all clubs
    • Supporters should be consulted on all key off-field decisions through a 'shadow board'
    • Key items of club heritage should be protected by a 'golden share' for fans
    • There should be more support from the Premier League to the pyramid through a solidarity transfer levy, paid by Premier League clubs on buying players from overseas or other top-flight clubs
    • Women's football should be treated equally and given its own review
    • Stakeholders should work to increase protection of welfare of players leaving the game

    As ever they key will be in the detail but at first glance a lot of it looks good imo.
     
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  2. brb

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    I do not believe anything will change. They are all corrupt, and will manipulate whatever rules are brought in.

    Any UK governing government as a whole will not have the balls to implement whatever is required, if they try to they will get taken through the courts.

    Tracey Crouch has good intentions and means well, but we need to remember here, it's Saudi state money involved, and along with the powers that be within Man City, she hasn't a hope in hell of taming there.

    Anything such as fan panels etc, will just be fancy bunting on a shhite parade.

    The MP in the BBC topic is the MP for Chatham, the neighbouring town of this football club...

    Tuesday, there was a peaceful protest outside the ground. My understanding is there was no abuse, no trouble, it was just a peaceful protest - I've seen no evidence to the contrary, a photo showed a peaceful protest being monitored by one copper and two stewards. When the fans later went to enter the ground for the game, they found they were all banned! One of the protestors had not missed a game all season. All these details publically posted on Twitter.

    This is what supporters are treated like. We are the most discriminated against customers in sport. even the leveson report was manipulated by government, to bring every control possible over the fans, the social classes, while the owners of football clubs in the higher tier, started to monopolate our game...

    You need look no further than FIFA and Qatar for evidence of that. I haven't even mentioned Newcastle yet, all fit a proper and supposedly above board. What this says is there is no control, there will never be control, because whatever you put in place, will be manipulated by some billionaires pocket.

    Football is fooked.
     
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  3. Tobes

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    Like everything in politics, it’ll depend on how this is implemented and what real teeth it actual ends up having, as to whether it has a chance of implementing real change or not. I foresee a potential legal quagmire if this is implemented against the will of the PL clubs, if it ends being done with their blessing, then it’d be a fair assumption that it’ll be barely more than a token quango.
     
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  4. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Mentioned it on the other thread, but I'd like to see

    * Supporter representation on the board. One seat should be allocated to a rep from the various supporters trusts, so that fans not only 'have a say' but are directly involved at board level with the decision making at the clubs

    * A % of shares should be ringfenced for supporters. So that no one individual or company can own the club outright. This way it ensures that fans always have a stake in their club and it also strengthens the validity of having supporter representation at board level.
     
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    Not exactly up to speed on this one but is seems that;

    After the FA abdicated it's responsibilities in 1992 we now (30 years later) have decided that the game needs regulating....err again.
     
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  6. Tobes

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    The FA literally lead the formation of the PL in the early 90’s though. They didn’t abdicate anything, they did what they felt was in the best interests of the game at that time.
     
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    Ok it's possible that's what happened as my memory isn't that great on what actually transpired at that precise point.

    However, the formation of the PL with virtually no outside governence compared to the way the old football league of 92 clubs operated resulted in a chalk & cheese manner of regulation from within the sport.

    In other words, the foxes were put in charge of the chicken coop.
     
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  8. pieguts

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    The issue for me is that it’s not a PL problem as such, so why would they want to solve it by having changes forced upon them.

    My view is the same as Tobes. If anything other than a token “boardroom fan” with no voting rights is forced upon them, then years of litigation will follow which will not only come from the PL clubs but also the broadcasting companies IMO.

    In general, the armchair British football loving public have no interest in the game outside of the PL and, if honest, not much interest other than the top 6-10 clubs within the PL. In reverse, the PL clubs have no interest in anything other than what generates the most revenue. You see this with how the PL clubs deal with the domestic cups. No interest unless they reach a final, then maybe the first team will get a run out!

    So as BRB says, nothing will change. The top table will enjoy the feast, those at the other tables will have to make do with crumbs and for the rest of us, we get to keep looking in through the window.
     
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    Yes mate but have you seen their training facilities
     
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  10. PINKIE

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    Soon to be best conference centre in the East Midlands <ok>
     
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  11. pompeymeowth

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    Women's football has been covered way more in recent years and female pundits and commentators are commonplace now.

    It's lovely to see big crowds at the games too.
     
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    Brighton have recently opened a new training facility for there woman’s team. It puts some of the premiership clubs to shame with the facilities they now offer the young ladies.
     
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  13. Spurlock

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    ST holders should only hold their seat for 3 years max…then back of the queue.

    give the next in line a chance
     
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  14. Star of David Bardsley

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    That’s obviously nonsense but there should be something done about ST holders regularly selling on or not using their ticket at all.
     
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    Fine
     
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    I think holding season tickets for a lifetime or selling on, is not just a British thing it also happens in the rest of Europe.

    I know someone some years back that went to watch Athletico Madrid play and the way they sourced a ticket on impulse, was via an ST Holder, who I was led to understand are able to sell on unused family member tickets, at face value in a section outside the ground. Which means you sit within their family group.

    I hear for some of our top premier league clubs, even for the family of ST Holders, waiting lists are so long, that if they were trying to get one for a child, the chances are they would be classed as an adult by the time they received it.

    I do have one question on this, if an ST Holder does not go to a game, nor sells the ticket on, nor gives it away, is that seat still counted as part of the official attendance?
     
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  17. Tobes

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    Depends on the club. At Arsenal yes lol.
     
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    <laugh>

    Well I didn't say but believe it or not, it was Arsenal I was referring too.
     
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    Enough is enough! It's time to put an end to big money takeovers.
     
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    Fed up already?
     
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