Reports tonight say that Suso has agreed a deal, pre contract, to join AC Milan when his contract runs out at the end of the season. No official announcement has been made, but given Suso's lack of games or involvement I think his desire to leave has been known by the club for a while. I feel we are loosing a really talented player. I have never been certain he is right for the EPL, but now we may never know as he has never been given a chance. We do however know that he has skill. Unlike Gerrard we probably don't have 5 months to enjoy Suso as he will probably continue to be wasted in the u21s until the end of the season. Is any one surprised by this? I'm not, I'v seen it coming for months.
Shame bcause he showed glimpses of real quality but must be something to do with his attitude maybe thinking he's better than he is? Can't blame him for thinking he should be getting first team games given how badly we've been. Hopef he goes on and becomes successful and isn't another Pacheco/Nemeth.
He's behind Coutinho and we really dont need another 'I can play on the wing but don't expect me to stay there' type of player because we have Lallana for that. For me he isn't any better than the players we already have, yeah he potentially could be but we have enough potential to let others go.
The reality is I feel the lad has not found his best position yet. I don't think he knows it and Rodgers only gave him a go when he'd nobody else in his first season in charge. Simply put he took him off quite early a few times due to positioning errors and the game passing him by I think the boy has talent but he's made his choice not to sign up for even 2 more years therefore why should Rodgers have given him a go Nathan eccleston tried this crap on too look how great he end up..... Good boy suso but needs games so moving to accmilan seems foolish to me
A talented lad that can pick a pass, very good technically which is what Rodgers wants? We'll regret letting him go as he'll become a very, very good player in a season or two. Tick off yet another mistake by Rodgers.
What's Rodgers supposed to do? Give someone who isn't good enough now loads of game time just to keep him here so he can be coming to the end of his contract in a couple of years instead when he might be good?
It's a matter of opinion, in my opinion he is good enough and should be playing. He's not been given a chance but every time he does play he looks a player and he certainly looked good in La Liga last season.
He has tlanet, so does teixteria but the reality is unless they can be trusted they can't swan in. its taken lallana, markoivc and even coutinho a long time to get the work rate where it needs to be to play in the prem and for us. Coutinho for the first 3 months was on the bench, in and out and was not working hard enough at all... this 3-4-3 formation has suddenly given him the boost he needed to be on his game and his work rate has frankly sky rocketted and he looks the player i hoped he'd be at the start of the year. unfortunately its too late for our league position now but it could make the difference in a cup for us. Suso got injured, he is only back and frankly he's prob back too late to get that chance especially if he's signed a deal elsewhere. not everyone comes through sorry... when i first saw him at 17 he was a lovely two footed player then he vanished and borrell sorted him out and taught him hard work was needed. he came in under rodgers and was very inconsistant and for me rodgers sent him out on a loan as the boy pushed to play not to develop him. i don't feel rodgers viewed that loan very positively and didn't exactly welcome him back with open arms did he? I feel that likewise wisdom is out on loan cos rodgers simply doesn't trust or rate the lad. He is a free prem standard defender and i think rodgers will never play him now. I saw last year rodgers pick cbs at rb rather than pick wisdom, all that got forgotten as SS took over.
You don't know that and that works both ways, I don't know for certain that he's good enough to be a regular starter. IMO he should have been given a chance to prove himself and Rodgers has decided not to give him that chance despite him looking a good player in a good league last season and also looking a good player in the small amount of game time he's had at Liverpool. We've blown a lot of money when we we could have given this lad a chance to show that he can perform, I'd have certainly brought him on in games this season when the likes of Coutinho, Markovic and Lallana have not been performing and lets face it there have been plenty of games when that has been the case. Time will tell I suppose, he'll either play well at Milan or not.
But that's the point, why wasn't he given the opportunity when the players mentioned were looking poor? Personally I would rather us have Suso in the team and the Markovic transfer fee in our pocket.
Just not so sure Luv, as MITO pointed out above - he was hauled off a couple of times within half hour which you don't do to a kid unless he really isn't getting it.
There's certainly an argument to be had for his inclusion or exclusion in the team, my opinion is that Rodgers has not given him a chance and is making a mistake in letting him go he proved last season that he can go past a man and create goals, something that we need. Shooting and scoring he's not good and would certainly need to improve in that area but then again so could a lot of our players.
Look honestly I think rodgers has a lot invested in the likes of adam lallana now so if the kid does a paul pogba fine... great but the reality is he is more likely to do a pacheco or tom ince. If he'd sign a deal up for a few years I am sure if it didn't work he could move easy anyway but he's chosen himself to play brinkmanship since august with LFc and honeslty that attitude has meant he's not got that chance. ofr the same reasons why you don't see 16 year olds make many debuts... you don't push players on unitl you tie them up on some contract cos you'll just get mugged. sterling got no game til he was 17, neither did michael owen.
I think Aspas had similarly good stats before he joined us. I'm not entirely sure Suso is cut out for PL football. He has skill but is not the quickest or strongest. When he first came into the team 2 years ago he seemed scared of tackling or being tackled, though that seemed to improve during his loan, and like others in our squad he doesnt seem to manage any where near 90 minutes (we cannot have to many players like that. Suso doesn't contribute enough right now in his hour of play to constitute selection).
I don't think we should call it a "mistake" every time BR does something we personally wouldn't. It's dead easy for us armchair managers to see what we should be doing, but in the real world it's more complicated. Suso has been here for more than 4 years, and has never really shown more than flashes of his potential. Unless we actually do believe that we could do a better job than the incumbent, then we have to accept that the managers see more of the players than we do and have a better idea of whether or not they'll be an effective member of the squad. Kenny didn't give him much time, either, did he? Nothing against Suso, I hope he does well at another club- but even if he does, that doesn't mean he would have with us. Mito's point about work rate is very important, we can't afford to give a player who doesn't contribute enough to the team unlimited time to prove himself. Obviously the manager can see enough potential in some players to persevere, but not in others.
Fair comment, I think he should have been given more of an opportunity to show what he can do but Rodgers obviously doesn't rate him.
