http://www.formula1.com/news/features/2011/11/12816.html New article featuring this seasons most efficient over-takers and other statistics, enjoy credit to Formula1.com. Questions summarised on this page, click the link for a more in depth look. How many overtaking manoeuvres have been made in 18 races this season? - 1436 overtaking manoeuvres in all categories. What is the breakdown of overtaking manoeuvres within these totals? -441 normal overtakes and 363 DRS overtakes, interesting to see that more overtakes were done without the aid of the infamous gadget. I was really expecting a massive amount with DRS. Which races have seen the most overtakes and which the least? -The highest number of clean overtakes were recorded in Turkey (85), Monaco was the lowest with (16). Monaco is a very hard corner to overtake as we the spectators and the drivers know. What has been the ratio of DRS to normal passes through the season? -Abu Dhabi 89% DRS - Monaco 13% DRS - obvious to expect this. Abu Dhabi and it's long straight were capitalised immediately by the drivers, Monaco seemed to be more of a drivers track with most overtakes done genuinely here. Has the ratio of DRS passes changed during the season? -No not really. Which driver has been the top overtaker in 2011? -Toro Rosso’s Sebastien Buemi has made a total of 112 overtakes in 2011 - closely followed by Mercedes’ Michael Schumacher (111), not including lap one. Both drivers are very close in this category, pushing hard to put some great passes in, it's a shame we do not get enough of a look on board the Torro-rosso and Mercedes during races. Who has been the top starter in 2011? -The top starter is Schumacher, who has gained a total of 34 positions; next up come Buemi (29) and Kovalainen with (28). Who has gained most positions on the first lap in 2011? -Schumacher, Buemi and Kovalainen also lead this table, having gained 40, 30 and 26 positions respectively on lap one. Finally, who has done the most overtaking in the races after lap one? -This classification is headed by Sauber’s Sergio Perez and Buemi, both with 82 overtakes. Buemi, Schumacher and Kovalainen as well as Perez stand out as very efficient drivers in terms of "clean passing" other drivers during races, it's a shame the season is coming to an end, I would have loved to have a look at these guys over a Grand Prix.
Good link EMSC. For those interested in statistics, this is a very very good basis for assessment. The final answer of the article is the most important: "Q: Finally, who has done the most overtaking in the races after lap one? A: This classification is headed by Sauber’s Sergio Perez and Buemi, both with 82 overtakes. They are followed by McLaren’s Jenson Button (77), Red Bull’s Mark Webber (76), Alguersuari (74) and Schumacher (71)." Well done to Perez and Buemi; but especially to Button and Webber who have started much closer to the front. Oh, and commiserations to Vettel…
The drivers in top cars shouldn't have many overtakes this season to their names. They should be out in front, rather than spending their time passing much slower cars. Well done to Perez and Buemi and well done to Mercedes, for using video, timing data and GPS technology to compile this data - a lot more accurate than "There was a change of position on the track. It was off-camera but let's call it an overtake anyway and boast these huge overtaking figures".
Precisely. Hence my commiserations to Vettel for not featuring on this list - which one must presume is intended to compliment the high scoring drivers.
Yes. Isn't that what we're all doing? As I congratulated you in my first post, I think this is a very good reference article for anyone interested in statistics.
You know I'm a sucker for stats What I'd like to see is these stats somehow offset against average grid positions, as a Red Bull starting at the back would have much better pickings than a HRT somehow starting at the front.
Come on, let's put Manny out of his misery otherwise he won't sleep tonight................ Doesn't Schumacher's stats look good everyone?
Only because he's crap at quali and misses Q3 too much for what is the 4th best car, he probably has the biggest deficit in start position to that of his team-mate. Edit: further checking shows he starts in an average position of 10.33, compared to Rosberg 7.6, which is the 2nd biggest margin between any team-mates, the biggest is Vettel/Webber, although Webber is still the 3rd highest starter (3.89), but doesn't come close to Vettel (1.28). http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/statistics/2011-f1-statistics/2011-f1-statistics-qualifying/ I did start to work them out myself but decided a quick googling might be better.
I think overtaking stats are pointless myself, they don't tell half the story, or any kind of story at all. As has been mentioned, the likes of Button, Webber and Schumacher should qualify higher. The greatest overtaking aid is a poor qualifying performance. Another gripe I have is not counting overtakes on the first lap (sometimes it's the first two). I don't get this. Overtakes at the start of a grand prix are completely unaffected by DRS, and are therefore more legitimate than any DRS pass. It seems ridiculous that Alonso's start in Barcelona doesn't count as a single overtake, and Vettel's crucial overtake on Hamilton in Korea doesn't count, but some of the ridiculous DRS moves in Turkey for example, are included. A bit more wingeing: How is that "most efficient" overtakers? Schumacher's pulled off a lot of moves, but he's also made a complete hash of too many as well, same with Hamilton who isn't mentioned surprisingly. In Monza Hamilton spent ages getting past Schumacher, while Button managed it within a lap. Stuff like this (ratio of clean to failed overtakes, and number of laps needed to complete an overtake) needs to be considered.
Nice work, Miggins. Obviously these things should be factored into any conclusions, for them to become more meaningful. This is the trouble with statistics. Rarely are all relevant parts of the equation factored in; and although statistics themselves do not 'lie', conclusions drawn can become gross distortions of a deeper truth. Of course, it is these bits which can be left out of the politician's argument.
