I think the last person I heard talking about this was Adam Pearson, but ive heard no more about it since, I think the allams were after doing it if they were successful in their attempts to own the KC. Just wondering what your thoughts on this are? would be great to be able to seat more fans and maybe the east stand could replicate the west stand in size, is there not enough demand for a bigger stadium or are the council waiting for us to establish ourselves more as a PL club? Or are there plans?
A lot of fans seem to want our stadium to be extended, but I really can't see the benefit of it right now. If we finish top half this season and we start selling out every week, it might be looked into, but until then the money (which I don't think Allam would want to spend anyway, given that the stadium isn't his) would be better spent elsewhere. 25.5k isn't a bad size stadium for a club of our size and stature at the moment. The time to address is would be when fans start complaining that they can't get seats, but when they're still managing to sell tickets on general sale on the day of the match, that suggests to me that the demand just isn't there. It'd have to be an expansion of at least 5,000 (think that's the capacity that was mooted if the South Stand had an extra tier put on it) to make it worthwhile and I don't think at the moment there are 5,000 fans clamouring for tickets.
Seiing out every week isn't the issue. It's the Cat A games were we charge £50 a seat and could possibly sell an extra 10K (Example) tickets when we play the likes of Liverpool that we need to worry about I mean every game costs us a possible £0.5M (Using the same example). That will soon add up in a season.
Extend Stadium Capacity = Lower Prices = Higher Attendance = More Revenue Other teams have marketing sectors whose job it is to ensure that the games are a sell out. Whether that is promotions, lower prices, free tickets to school kids or drawing in fans from areas outside Hull. We appear to put tickets on sale and hope for the best.
But then the Cat A games are always going to sell out because of all the plastics, it's the games against the likes of Palace, Leicester and Burnley we need to be filling the stadium for. The extra income from the Cat A games would be ok, but it'd make it harder to create an atmosphere on matchdays when we can't sell tickets for the other games. Once we're selling out every week, then we can expand the stadium.
I know we're in the top flight now, but when I was younger and used to do the football in the community schemes (run by maccy ds I think) they used to give tickets away all the time. Do the club still do this?
I meant that other teams in the league do it. I know that our players go in to schools sometimes but I don't think enough is done at a community level. It would be nice to think it could work like this. 1000 kids invited > 500 turn up > 10% (50) become life long city fans and invest in passes and merchandise for the future and in the long haul introduce their kids to the club. Admittedly that would all be in a perfect world. I also don't think that the club has capitalised on the local potential of the club. There are smaller clubs and smaller cities/towns in the country getting higher attendance than we do. Hull has a population of around 250,000, North Yorkshire has a population of 602,700, East Yorkshire has a population of 334,200 and North Lincolnshire has a population of 167,500. There is a massive potential in the local regions to maximise crowd attendance but they are not engaged with and the prices will be too high.
What's this ****e about 'plastics' ? It's holy than thou bullshit , who is a 'real ' ie non plastic then ? When most of Hull decamped to wembley in 1980 I along with 3,000 others went to BP to see us beat Southend does that mean anyone who wasn't there is a plastic , are the new fans , the ones who have come back to City plastics? You clearly have no idea about our history or potential if you think a stadium that holds just over 25,000 is adequate for the kind of crowds we could get. I ****ing hate this plastic ****e , would you prefer we played ina crumbling **** heap in front of 3-4000 ? That way no plastics eh. I know loads of people who cannot afford every game some of whom save their money in the hope of going to the big matches presumably they're plastics too ? I welcome new fans to City I want them to become as committed to City as I am to bring their friends and family to make City into a much bigger club than the likes of you and your small time attitude could ever dream of, I spent too many years standing in a three quarters empty ground thinking of the days when City were one of the best supported teams outside the top division . We need a bigger stadium end of .
Atmos won't bring in money though and that is what we need to move the club up. How many cat A games will there be? I would imagine about 6? That's around £3M a year. I think I once saw a report that it would cost around £1M per 1000 seats so in the course of 3 years the 10000 extra seats would be paid for if they were only filled by cat A games. I'm sorry but the 'sticking at 25K due to the atmos' truly is self defeating.
Nonsense. The stadium is too small for a club of our size and stature at the moment. Expansion could also help to freeze/reduce ticket prices and provide additional revenue through the expansion of corporate facilities.
Hello mr sinbad, my perception of plastics is people who pretend to follow another team ( usually top 6) ,never go to any games , the only time they ever see them play is at the kc. Then they complain how sh@@e they are cos they've watched 90 mins of football, instead of motd highlights. ( ie the good bits) .rest of the time they parade themselves about wearing their chosen clubs apparel. Surely a city fan is a city fan. Yes some may not be able to attend every game, probably for financial reasons. Don't know if that's the official stance on here, that's my definition for what it's worth! Would someone please correct me if I'm wrong, as I need to know where to channel my hate.
Melton would be a much better option if partners could be encouraged. The Circle is in the wrong place. It needs to be in an area with more potential and brighter surroundings. Let's face it, as it is, the Circle is a horrible place!
The KC will only ever have piecemeal expansion. At a maximum between 2 and 5 thousand. Beyond that there is not enough money in it. The North Stand changed into a standing zone could be the first option.
Perhaps, as has always been said, the most sensible and constructive thing to do would be to sell the ground in a deal that would be tied in with the area being regenerated. Take a look at Newcastle for a prime example.
St James Park is a monster on the edge of one of the busiest City Centres in the North of England. On a Saturday afternoon getting across the Tyne Bridge is hard enough let alone getting to the ground and even watching a game with ease and in comfort. City Centre stadia are a mistake and rather than model our ground on Newcastle, I reckon Brighton, Sunderland or Bolton for examples have much more potential and contemporary appeal.
The SAG think that building a new tier would be more cost effective than safe standing. I know that sounds ridiculous, but they claim that major structural works would need to be done to the fabric of the stadium to allow more people to get in and out of the North Stand, due to the current capacity only just meeting the safety rules on how quickly the stand could be evacuated. It's a bit of a farce, as in reality if there was an emergency, everyone would run on the pitch, but them's the rules apparently, we'd need to add new entrances and exits(which involves a lot of concrete works) and that's on top of the cost of removing the seats and adding rail seats. For an additional potential 1,500 ticket sales, possibly at reduced prices, they don't think it adds up and 5,000 extra seats on an Upper East would make more financial sense. I'm not sure I buy it, I think it's likely that other clubs with the same access issues as us would go ahead with it anyway and we'd probably end up doing the same.
Always seems like we're 'almost' selling out but rarely fully sell out. Because the capacity is small there isn't much appetite to really push for more fans from around the city who we wouldn't have room for, but until we can do that we can't get the crowds a club in our position should be able to. Something needs to budge eventually, it's gonna be ages before we're ever completely safe from PL relegation, if ever. So we can't wait for that time to come before doing anything. But even if the appetite is there, the biggest obstacle is still the council/Allam situation and that doesn't look like budging any time soon either.
