Euro 2016 thread

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littleDinosaurLuke said:
The bottom line is that England don't have good enough players. There were a few young players in the squad, who have emerged since the World Cup debacle, but England still play in the same disjointed, "lump it in and hope for the best" way. We continue to lack players with a good first touch, who are able to pass and move coherently and are clever enough to to find space and time or the bit of skill or class which gives the better teams the edge (for example Griezmann's timely intervention yesterday for France).

Some of our players look good a club level because they have star players around them who provide that coherence or creavity, which enables them to shine. When you put the England players together in the same team their lack of real ability is painfully obvious - as has been shown tournament after tournament. We revert to trying to wear down the opposition by lumping the ball into the box as often as possible, but teams are wise to this now - and all the teams are very organised. Wales and Iceland are proof that good organisation and playing to a plan can compensate for lack of ability to some extent. Unfortunately, England lack organisation too. The players don't play to a plan, nobody seems to know what their roles are (how do Kane, Vardy, Sturridge, Rooney and Alli all fit together?) and the personnel changes so often that there is no understanding.

A total shambles.
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We have enough good players to make the last eight at most tournaments. If Iceland and Wales can manage it, so could we if:

1.The FA could appoint someone half decent as coach who would do more than pick Rooney and hope.
2. We'd stop picking injured players for tournaments.
3. We'd stop picking out of form players. We'd have done a lot better in this tournament with Noble in place of Rooney and Townsend for Sturridge.
4. We stop treating the team as Brazil of 1970 when we win qualifying games against San Marino or Andorra.

If we follow The Huddlefro's suggestion and get an Eddie Jones figure in to kick some ass,we could go from piss poor to reasonable again. I vote for Hoddle. He's a good coach and can be ruthless - see Gazza in 98.
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
Are we all forgetting Joe Hart? Whilst blame is being chucked around. He was absolutely dire for the whole tournament.
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He is totally incapable of controlling his emotions, he gets hyped up before each game, works himself up to the point he permeates hyperactivity instead of calmness. All the top keepers stay calm before the games, during the games, when they concede, when they make a save, all the time. Hart looks nervous when he concedes and gives no confidence. He completely loses his head as soon as he is playing in a game that really means something.

Hart has no chill.
 
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afcftw said:
He is totally incapable of controlling his emotions, he gets hyped up before each game, works himself up to the point he permeates hyperactivity instead of calmness. All the top keepers stay calm before the games, during the games, when they concede, when they make a save, all the time. Hart looks nervous when he concedes and gives no confidence. He completely loses his head as soon as he is playing in a game that really means something.

Hart has no chill.
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I always thought him a good keeper. But he was awful!..
 
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It takes something to get a squad full of talented young players to play like a bunch of headless chickens. I think that something is Captain Rooney and manager Hodgson.
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
I always thought him a good keeper. But he was awful!..
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He has good keeper attributes, just like Szcezeny did at Arsenal, both of them have won the golden glove, but both of them had the same downfall, there mentality just isn't that of a top keeper. Whether hart gains it with age who knows, but as it stands he doesn't have the nerve or calmness for tournament football.
 
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afcftw said:
He has good keeper attributes, just like Szcezeny did at Arsenal, both of them have won the golden glove, but both of them had the same downfall, there mentality just isn't that of a top keeper. Whether hart gains it with age who knows, but as it stands he doesn't have the nerve or calmness for tournament football.
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It appears not...
 
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Spurf said:
It takes something to get a squad full of talented young players to play like a bunch of headless chickens. I think that something is Captain Rooney and manager Hodgson.
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I think Rooney has a use, but needs a manager capable of knowing his limitations and ready to pull him out when he is ineffective and like today when the pressure is getting to him. He went to such **** today. How Hodgson didn't take him off sooner is anyone's guess, but then he did put Kane on corners and free kicks all tournament instead of in the box, not like he is a decent goal scorer or anything...
 
afcftw said:
I think Rooney has a use, but needs a manager capable of knowing his limitations and ready to pull him out when he is ineffective and like today when the pressure is getting to him. He went to such **** today. How Hodgson didn't take him off sooner is anyone's guess, but then he did put Kane on corners and free kicks all tournament instead of in the box, not like he is a decent goal scorer or anything...
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How much failure do you have to have before you get dropped from the England squad?
 
afcftw said:
I thought Rooney looked good in the first half but in the second half he went to absolute ****, literally everything he did was terrible, lost his touch, poor passing, poor decision making, slowed the game down. The pressure got to him as the experienced player and it showed. Terrible second half performance from him.

I thought Wilshere and Rashford are the only two players who can be happy with there contribution today, the rest of the team were just awful in every way possible.
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The pressure got to all of them.

It's convenient how 2 of the players who played least in the tournament are the 2 who you think can hold their heads up high, isn't it? If they'd started you'd be slating them along with every other player.

There's always someone to blame. I blame the manager who had 4 years to build a good side and failed, who's managed 1 win in the last 7 tounament games. Blaming the players is pointless, 2 almost completely different squads failed badly with the same manager.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Do Iceland qualify for the EU now?
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Thanks but no thanks say Iceland oh and btw, Thanks for all the fish.

I seem to remember we lost the last battle we had with Iceland. Cod?

Don't worry England will soon be reduced to Poundland.
 
Do you remember when Denmark turned up to the Euros from holidays as a last minute substitute team?

And won it! <laugh>

Iceland of course is part of Denmark, so watch out.
 
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