Estonia v. Wales

[Oldsparkey]

Too much sense being talked on this thread.

 

[Masky]

Too much sense being talked on this thread.

I can help with that pal!

 

[Oldsparkey]

I can help with that pal!

I was going to mention that.

 

[Masky]

If you’ve got a problem, don’t care what it is
I can help, I can assure you of this
I can help, it would sure do me good
TO DO YOU GOOD, I can help

 

[Oldsparkey]

My original post above wasn't a criticism of other posts on the thread in any way - in fact quite the opposite, and just an observation.

Good to have some serious football discussion at the moment given the dross we're being served up at club level.

 

[Masky]

No names mentioned (you know who you are) but I lot of dross is served up on here too.....not you OS pal! Lick your bottom sir?

 

[clingo]

I do wonder whether we actually fired Estonia up a bit with our pre-match "attitude"?

If you think about it, the management were saying how we were going all out to score lots of goals from the off. That could be taken as being rather arrogant and dismissive of the Estonian team in their own backyard.

It would certainly explain why they were kicking lumps our of us and had that extra ounce of determination as the game wore on.

It's definitely an odd time to be a Welsh fan. I totally get those that still see any win as a good win but we also can't deny that expectations are definitely a lot higher these days.

They say it's the hope that kills you but where football is concerned I'm still very much someone who believes that going into games with hope is far, far better than going in with expectation (and risking being like England and their ridiculous misconception of it "coming home" in every tournament).

We should try exceptionally hard to never lose our humility.

Superbly well said.

 

[clingo]

Very true Brizzle.
Expectation is rightly growing. However we still need to accept we are a small nation who need to dip into the lower leagues for our squad.
Down the years we've always had the odd world class player. What we've learned in recent years us how best to exploit that class.
In the past it was give it to giggs, or hughes or rush and see what they can do.
Now the "lesser players" provide the environment for the class to shine. We have a game plan, a style, an identity (wish the bluebirds could say the same), playing as a team with the whole greater than the sum of the parts.
Still not perfect but a big improvement on the 70s, 80s and 90s.
As you rightly say, keep the humility, accept we're punching above our weight, maintain perspective and above all, enjoy the good times.

Equally well said.

 

[BluefromBridgend]

Very true Brizzle.
Expectation is rightly growing. However we still need to accept we are a small nation who need to dip into the lower leagues for our squad.
Down the years we've always had the odd world class player. What we've learned in recent years us how best to exploit that class.
In the past it was give it to giggs, or hughes or rush and see what they can do.
Now the "lesser players" provide the environment for the class to shine. We have a game plan, a style, an identity (wish the bluebirds could say the same), playing as a team with the whole greater than the sum of the parts.
Still not perfect but a big improvement on the 70s, 80s and 90s.
As you rightly say, keep the humility, accept we're punching above our weight, maintain perspective and above all, enjoy the good times.

Agreed we are a small nation punching above our weight for a variety of good reasons but my point is, last night was Estonia ffs.

What leagues are they dipping into for their players? The only one I recognised was the young Spurs reserve centre back who is yet to play in the Prem.

They played above themselves with a level of commitment and fitness we struggled to match - in both games. Perhaps our Billy Big Bo££ocks attitude wound them up? Certainly the scant home support had little to do with it. If they had a decent striker with some composure we could easily have just drawn or even lost that.

They nearly did to us what we have done against the likes of Italy and Belgium in the past.

I'm pleased with the win but very frustrated with the performance.

 

[ninian opinion]

England held and the media reporting their Quatar qualification isin the balance as they need results in their last 2 games.

Which are against the mighty Albania and the dangerous San Marino.

Not Belarus and Belgium then

 

[BluefromBridgend]

Fair do's, England were crap tonight. At least Wales got a win.

However, I've wasted 4 hours of my life in the last 2 nights. I should have done some painting and watched it dry.