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England U21's and England grown ups

Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by sensiblegreeny, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I was a bit shocked to watch the scenes at the U21 match last night and expected to wake up today to see the Serbians on the carpet big time. Not a thing and then our FA made a formal complaint. What happens next. FIFA charge both associations with misconduct. That organisation is a total and utter joke. I was sitting comfortably last night witing for the kick off to the grown up match. I see a pitch more suited to water polo. What happens next. The poor Ref comes out, not once but several times, to see if he can make a bal move in the swimming pool. The match should have been called off immediately and the supporters not made to sit around for a couple of hours getting soaked for nothing.

    On to the match itself. England have obviously been to the Argyle school of passing footballs. What a totally inept performance they gave. Poland were made to look like Brazil and in my opinion should have won comfortably if there was any justice in football. Even Hart caught the bug of ineptitude by going for a ball he was never ever going to get to. Probably one of the worst performances I've seen from us. I bet all the Polish supporters were in a better mood travelling back to the UK than our supporters.........
     
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  2. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    What a joke with the England games last night!! Bigger joke was watching them play this afternoon. absolute rubbish! i think they would have passed better last nite on that soaked pitch or pond..

    As for Serbia,, well what can one say... Sepp twatter has said its a Eufa problem? makes no difference Plattini is just as bent as twatter... as its England it will be ok.. just a small fine for that and then if you show your boxers as Bendtner did at the euros you get a bigger fine or punishment.. in future they should just walk off when these morons start acting like monkeys in the crowd... All we here now is racism in football , i think its creeping back.. but did it ever go away.
     
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  3. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The U21 game with England rubbing it in with a last minute winning goal ended as a tinder box waiting for a match to set it off.

    Well done Referee for supplying that match.....giving no racial protection to black players who where obviously being targeted......and reacting to Danny Rose's frustration when he kicked the ball into the crowd.....what did the Ref do.....sent him off after the game had finished with a red card.

    Just what the Serbians needed to react to.....and the rest is history.

    Uefa's response will not be adequate...it never is......and the Serbs denial of everything....although you could clearly hear the monkey taunts, is so extreme that it requires a very strong reaction from Blatter and Platini.......the denial of any wrong doing requires a very strong fine and ban......far beyond Bendtner's underpants fine.

    Eufa are more concerned with non-recognized advertising (Bendtner) than the rights of human decency for players of the game that they should be protecting.

    Hasn't that part of Europe learnt anything from the years of bloodshed that they brought on themselves in recent times.....and hasn't Eufa and FIFA recognized how important it should be to keep football a sport where all are equal.
     
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  4. mexijan

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    The serbs have already been in trouble for this in the past and received a 16K fine for it. Man City where fined 21K for coming back from half-time 1 minute late in a Champions league match so that really shows how serious they are about racism. Serbian response is a disgrace but true to form as when they had to abandon the match in Italy beause of their idiot fans they appealed against decision to award the points to Italy and tried to deny responsibility, in this case the violence was directed at their own keeper not because he was black but because he had changed clubs!!!. Some of the Serbian press has condoned this but when their FA and players come out with the line it was all Rose´s fault and nothing to do with racism then what message does that send to the fans. Rose is banned for next games and we are also charged so I guess the idiots won then!!!! Either kick them out of international football for a few years or arrange a rematch, cancel all travel restrictions on certain English "supporters" and sort it out man to man.
     
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  5. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Lazio fined 32.5k for racial abuse at spurs a few weeks ago? That is peanuts to a club like that. How will this deter the idiots? Eufa a ****ing joke?

    Cole was fines 90k for calling the FA a buuch of twats? well he was correct in that.

    The only way for this now i feel that players will stay to walk of the pitch during games when they here these monkey chants and bananas thrown at them....
     
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  6. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    Given this isn't a first offence, the only fit penalties are either that Serbia be excluded from the next international tournament or that they be forced to play all their home fixtures outside the country.

    There's blood-feud mentality in the Balkans; I have a picture of an atrocity in an ancient Balkan conflict which I saw in the Sunday paper forever etched in my mind. It's the worst thing I have ever seen. So I guess excluding Serbia will make matters worse rather than better in the short term but a start has to be made somewhere.
     
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  7. Plymborn

    Plymborn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If it was just their fans causing the problems.....then you could maybe feel sorry for the Serbian FA.......but the complete denial of any form of wrong doing by their FA and their Government is beyond belief.

    The way that they transferred the blame onto Danny Rose and the whole England outfit, players and team management alike, suggests that they should be totally banned from this present World Cup and the next European Championship.......in fact at a club and international level,and certainly U21 level as well.

    We all know that Blatter and Platini haven't got the balls to do that.........a fine, less than what Bendtner paid by flashing his briefs will be on the cards........and a fine for England will be inevitable........how many years were England banned from European club football years back for crowd problems......that will not happen to poor little Serbia.
     
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  8. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Ban them for ever .. they are not welcome on the football pitch... Like you say Plym we had a ban for 5 years i think for the troubles in Europe.. if that was england fans we would be banned already.. as twatter and his chum platinni don't like us and will not help us.... Pair crooks . perhaps the serbs have gave them a bung
     
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  9. mexijan

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    Nice to see the WEEDS brought us down to their level!!!!! Just when you thought things were getting better the morons pull us back in!!!!
    Just reading a few threads on the Leeds board and apparently they are blameless on this it was all the Police, Stewards, Sheff Wed, Society to blame... "Are you Serbia in disguise" seems an apt chant for them. Always had a begruding respect for their fans, loyally in the worse times, but now....ZERO.
     
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  10. sensiblegreeny

    sensiblegreeny Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    To their credit they had his picture and name up on the internet in less than a few hours and the Leeds board was less than complimentary of his actions. It is a shame that so few can give the whole fanbase such a label. Having said that there was a hoarding kicked off an upper tier which fell on the crowd below. Their own supporters got the headache from it and a small boy was hurt. There was obscene chanting from both sides and chairs thrown by both sides. It wasn't just Leeds at fault here. This all came from a Friday night match organised for the benefit of Sky. No other match on and a local derby at a time of night that people could get tanked up before kick off. I read that the last time they had one of these between two other sides from the Championship and another local derby there were fights etc. which had not happened before. All I can say to the people who set this game up is DOH!!!!.
     
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