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Dubai World Cup (and the return of So You Think)

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by DanishPastry, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. DanishPastry

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    Horrible though it is to be considering the flat before Aintree and Punchestown have been and gone (I'm a jumps man when it comes down to it), has anyone looked at all at the excitement planned for the end of the month at Meydan?

    I'm not at all aware of global form (in fact, with the exception of Black Caviar, I've never really had a clue about what goes on outside the U.K. apart from for a couple of weeks before the Arc each year!), so was wondering what people thought of So You Thinks chances in the Dubai World Cup?

    He's been priced up as 3/1 favourite by Stan James, and is a horse I've always liked, although never actually backed.

    Anyone know anything about the opposition? What is the general consensus on his chances?

    Cheers.
     
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  2. Zenyatta

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    If I back him he will just get chinned and finish 2nd, within a 1/2 length of the winner. If I don't back him he will win.

    I'll let you know. <cheers>
     
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  3. OddDog

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    Backed him a few times and now just hate him.

    Wouldn't waste my money on this desert carnival - wait for some proper racing, it's only another 2 weeks to Aintree and you can lump it all on Big Buck's.

    Seriously, I wouldn't touch SYT with a barge pole
     
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  4. Zenyatta

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    This is probably, but not definitely, good advice.

    However, Big Buck's aside, I always find Aintree a bit of a nightmare. Some Cheltenham form stands up, some doesn't, and there seems little way of knowing which will and which won't.
     
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  5. Ron

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    Well, whatever else is in the race, I think he will give a very good account of himself provided he's travelled OK. He may have let a few people down punting-wise but I feel he hasn't run a bad race yet and I would love to see him win.
     
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  6. rainbowview

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    He will not be getting beat in this contest. I find it funny how he arrived here with such a reputation people thought he was unbeatable. Still a class horse and his form is good enough to win on Sat
     
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    Of course he hasn't ran a bad race as he is a consistent high class animal and has acquitted himself brilliantly since he got over here.Its just the mug punters who cannot stand losing that dislike him.And obviously the AOB haters who wanted him to lose before he even stepped off the plane.

    Hes definitely in the top 5 horses in the world.Eight Group 1 wins.Not bad for a horse that is seemingly a failure.
     
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  8. King Shergar

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    He is probably the best turf horse in the race, but the track is incredibly bias to low drawn horse's, and it's on a synthetic surface. So there's probably enough reasons not to back him. He might well win, but it's not realy a race I'd want to be getting involved in.

    Also AOB has never won a G1 in Dubai :biggrin:
     
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    Were all his races in Australia on turf?
     
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    Yes Ron.
     
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    Cheers Cyc. I suppose that could be a negative for him then.
     
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  12. OddDog

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    Can't comment on the standard of his Australian G1 wins but the 3 he mopped up over here last season were just about the poorest G1s I can ever remember. In the Tattersalls Gold Cup he beat Campanologist and Famous Name (a G2 horse and a G3 horse), his Eclipse was a match-up against Workforce for whom the trip was too short, and the Irish Champion he scraped home at 1/4F from Snow Fairy.

    Every time he came up against a top class horse last season he was beaten - Rewilding, Danedream and Cirrus Des Aigles had his measure (I'm prepared to forgive his BC run as I don't believe he should have been there). I was certainly disappointed that he didn't win the Prince Of Wales and the Champion Stakes, does that make me a mug punter? I also don't like losing so maybe I am <laugh>
     
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    He cruises well but in all honesty looked a little one paced over 10f. I think he needs a trip personally, mile and a half seemed right for me- his best runs were when really tested in the Eclipse (Workforce made it a stamina test) and when a running on 4th in the Arc.

    He will run well and might well win- depends what opposition turns up.
     
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    Snow Fairy is high class Odddy and he was always holding her challenge by finding more. As for the arc the winner was impressive but it was a freak result she will do nothing this season if she stays in training.Frankie battered Rewilding home also.
     
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    1 from 8 since her Oaks victory ;)
     
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    So her 3 Group 1 wins on her travels against very good horses dont count ?
     
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    I always thought the opposite. He travelled well, came to win his race and then weakened in the last 100yds. This is what he did in the PoW and the Champion Stakes. Shorten those races by 100yds and he'd have won both.
     
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  18. King Shergar

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    The races she won abroad were egg and spoon races, and have wrongly elevated her reputation. Turf G1 form in Japan, is very poor indeed. It's the same with American Turf form.

    Midday has beaten Snow Fairy easier than SYT did. As for his victory over Workforce. What did Workforce do last season, he lost every race bar a G3 starter. Then Rewilding, was he realy anything special? I'd say half decent but nothing special.

    I'd say SYT is tough and consistent, but is he the champion he was billed as? No. He runs consistently in the high 120s, but that's about it :biggrin:
     
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  19. rainbowview

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    Facts are Shergs she had the likes of Planteur, Stacelita, Cirrus Des Aigles and Vision Detat behind her in one of the races. Not all japanese horses.
     
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  20. DanishPastry

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    Haha so the general consensus is that he should win, but don't back him. Excellent!

    I wasn't going to back him anyway, with this little knowledge it seems foolhardy, but definitely a race I'll watch with interest...
     
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