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Don't Push It - Retired to Stud.

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  1. Epona

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  2. Reebok

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    Were you in a coma on Monday when it was announced <laugh>

    Just joking Sol :) The thing that amazed ME was the fact that he has the equipment to go to stud with!!!

    They are normally the first things to go, on account of them being in the firing line as they go over those scratchy twig fences - my eyes are watering even thinking about it!
     
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  3. woolcombe-folly007

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    Happy retirement! Great last 2 years!!!
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  4. Epona

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    Yes, must have been very painful for him over Becher's.
     
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  5. Epona

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    Lovely pic wooly.

    I wonder what he'll do in his retirement....he'll probably race Istabraq and Barracuda round the field :)

    I hope someone will ride him and give him some fun...I'm sure they will.
     
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    He's a gelding so won't be furfilling stud duties, JP's Stud is more like a retirement home. Imagine jumping the national fences with tackle still intact, Ouch. I've always wanted to get up and have a wander round to see some of the great horses espcially Istabraq, I still haven't managed to do this. He deserves a long and happy retirement...
     
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  7. Cyclonic

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    Not know again. Do many entires compete over the fences? I feel silly asking. Fencing is almost non existent here, but I joined the original 606 a few years back, and have been following the hunt scene ever since. And in all that time, it never crossed my mind to keep an eye out for gonads. As any old bloke can tell you, gravity takes hold in a big way as we age, sending our nads rushing towards out knees. I should imagine a middle aged entire would have some eye watering experiences as be bashed his nuts through twenty, unforgiving fences.
     
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  8. Archers Road

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    Looks like he will be pushing it.
     
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    No mate, I'm sure PN will be able to provide specific numbers but almost every NH horse I'm aware of has been gelded - a number of ex/current flat horses may be entires but jumping hurdles is different to fences so less of an issue.
    I can't remember an entire chaser (there must have been some)......
     
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    Did I hear my name?!

    Firstly, DON'T PUSH IT will not be fathering any foals in this lifetime.

    Secondly, as Grizzly says there have been a number of entires out over hurdles (Alderbrook finished 2nd in the Ch Hurdle and went on to sire the like of Ollie Magern), but I can't think of any off the top of my head that went chasing.
    As has already been said, an entire would be very reluctant to jump fences for 2 obvious reasons!
     
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    I can remember a Tim Forster 4yo/5yo hurdler called Belfalas, who had been a reasonable stayer on the flat. He raced as an entire and won his first hurdle quite impressively. On his next outing he was 'playing up' and unfortunately fell at the second with a distinctly uncomfortable contact between his old chap and the hurdle. His jockey reported that the horse looked as if he could see stars going round his head. Needless to say he wasn't up to much after that.
     
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  12. Grizzly

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    PN you are the master of all knowledge when it comes to horse racing and very rarely is there a need to pull you up on anything you share, however, in 1995 I was the proud holder of an significant ante-post voucher on Large Action for the Champion Hurdle, this wager was placed in November just before I disappeared on a 4 month trip overseas.
    When I returned (day before Cheltenham and just in time for my lift to the Mecca) I was horrified to discover that Alberbrook, a Group 1 winning flat horse, but novice over timber, was entered in the race, not only was he entered he jumped upsides Large Action at the last and went away to win the race impressively from yep, Large Action.
    I still to this day claim a moral ante post victory....
     
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  13. Epona

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    Morning all....this was said jokingly...I didn't mean to cause any confusion.

    Someone did leave a comment on The Mail....so I'd have thought they would have changed the headline by now.
    I expect the sportswriter just assumed that because Don't Push It was going to Martinstown Stud he would be having many wives <smooch>

    It's an interesting thread now tho' because I remember hearing of a horse, other than Alderbrook, jumping as an entire.
    I think it was a chestnut...it was quite well known. I think it might have had the letter 'k' in it's name....Robin Dicken is coming to mind now too.....crumbs I'm sounding like Doris Stokes.

    If no one on here can think of it then I must have imagined it <confused>
     
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    Kribensis ?
     
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    Monksfield was an entire.
     
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    Thanks...but it wasn't Kribensis or Monksfield,

    I'm pretty sure the horse I'm thinking about was trained by Robin Dicken...probably the best horse he's ever trained.
    I think it may have come 4th in a Grand National...probably somewhere between '98 and '06. So it couldn't have been entire.

    I still need to think of the horse's name.... to save my sanity...cos it's driving me nuts now.
     
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    You might get a few entires willing to brave it over bechers if there was a nice mare leading the field....:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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    Wellbeing (finished 5th behind Sindaar in the Derby) went jumping aafter his stud career flopped, but I can't find out if he wsa gelded first or after a few starts. He had certainly been "done" by the end of the 2004/05 Season!
     
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    One way of shortening the willie.
     
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    It was Kadastrof!!

    His name just popped into my head earlier today....I quickly wrote it down before it went again lol.

    A chestnut, and he was entire, trained by Robin Dicken.

    He was 4th at Aintree but not in the National, it was the Red Rum Chase in '98.

    He ran in 13 chases and won 6 of them.

    Goodness..I've just found out he's alive and kicking, and still standing at stud....go Kadastrof!

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