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Do you want B.S. as manager next season?

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Mexican Hornet, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. Mexican Hornet

    Mexican Hornet Well-Known Member

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    Yes there is a Poll option, but only for 15 opinions.

    So why do you want him to stay or not?

    If not, who, given we are Watford, would you like in?

    I'd give him another season.
     
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    As above.
     
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  5. Markthehorn

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    I don't see why not - he will know the squad and understand what players we need/don't need.

    Another manager will only have to get used to the players and that takes time.
     
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  6. A1 Horn

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    Yes. I reckon we've seen enough to give it a go. Just needs to bring in a 'we don't concede late goals' specialist coach from Serie A!
     
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    Absolutely, beginning to play some of the football we saw last season and has started too tighten up. A couple of players and a real leader and we will improve on this season with Bepe in charge. My only whinge is that I wish he improves his English over the summer.
     
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  9. Bloother

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    I think its about who we get in on the playing side. If we lose another batch of players and don't adequately replace them, then we are in for another season of mediocrity. There is enough knowledge at the club now to have a pretty decent idea of what it takes to get out of this league. We need to keep the players we need to keep (Deeney, Toszer, Riera, etc.) and we need to bring in the right players to compliment the rest of the squad. More Toszers and less Fabrinnis. Then BS needs to get it right on the pitch. The signs are encouraging, but 1 win from 14 away games in all competitions under BS tells a different story to the one at home.

    So, in answer to the question…I'm still not sure, but he will be given the job. Of that I'm almost certain. Will he get us promoted (and remember, this is year three of a three year plan (or so we were led to believe), so don't accuse me of getting ideas above little old Watford's station)? I'm really not sure. Sorry to be the Grinch, but either way, its a big decision.
     
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  10. Chappers

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    He's not really had the chance to manufacture his own team and style, he's been feeding off Zola's scraps (and doing a fair job of it) for the last 6 or so months. Give him a year extension and if we haven't made the play offs next season let his contract run out. That said I can't imagine the Pozzos messing about if we're in a similar position to where we were in November under Zola, they seem pretty ruthless.
     
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  11. Leo

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    I will get off the fence

    I would never have appointed him in the first place - and I would not let him near the club next year. He is not a winner. He has had lots of clubs and almost no real success. Given the number of players we have and the quality of one or two the proverbial carthorse could have got us to mid table mediocrity this year. I held back over the last few weeks to see whether he had any positive qualities. Take our record over the last couple of months when a half decent run would have seen us in the play offs and he failed - that was after he had the chance to get to know his squad yardy yardy yar. The guy just does not have it.

    Now if you believe we are a small club that has punched above its weight for years ( I do) then you have every right to say that mid table in the second tier is the best we should expect. Under other owners I might agree with that. Under Baz and the disgusting shower that preceded him and sold the club into his shoddy hands we were going to be fortunate to avoid dropping to the third tier. However the Pozzos lay claim to want better than that - well Sannino is not the man to give it to them.

    So - unequivocally I do not want Sannino for another year. He is a loser. You have to be determined and to HATE losing and to make your players hate it too. If we want a real promotion push we need somebody else.
     
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    Given the model the owners are working to I doubt we'll see a new manager and if we do it is likely to be another relatively unknown Italian or perhaps Spaniard. Like others i think he deserves a chance to have a full season at it as he's done ok. I do agree with WY though - he needs to make the effort to be more fluent in English in my opinion.
     
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  13. Markthehorn

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    True - hew will be under pressure to get consistent results - and our away form didn't really improve.

    Our home performances were more solid if nothing else.

    Hopefully the players won't think "we're going to walk the league" again before its starts.
     
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    Chappers, today's opposition manager hasn't done too bad after taking over someone else's players, albeit a month or so earlier.
     
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    Absolutely agree with everything said above. He is no longer working with Zola's "scraps" (who did marvelously well BTW last season) - they are his "scraps" now after 24 (yes 24) League games. There has been no discernible improvement in away form whatsoever - albeit he has tightened up the home form. He appears to be a journeyman coach with no special attributes. We need someone who knows the division either as "manager" or as "chief coach" or whatever. 5 out of the top 6 clubs in the Championship this season have managers who know what's needed to succeed - only Wigan with Rosler are the exception and he has played in this country for a number of years.

    No, time to have a rethink Pozzos!
     
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    Pochettino at Southampton doesn't seem to be making any great strides in the English language department but he's not doing too bad at managing!
     
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    He can talk English pretty well I believe - just not to the media.

    After all each time I see Southampton on the telly the guy is always moaning to the ref.
     
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    I'd like to see Di Mateo and Steve Clark take over. Di Mateo is pretty wealthy by now and doesn't need the money. So I'd like to see the Pozzo's sell him the dream. I know he has no Championship experience, but he knows English football and has management experience. I think he won a trophy as well?

    Never going to happen, but maybe...just maybe. Now that would shake up the Championship.
     
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    Ahem - very valid point! Actually you and Leonardo make cases that are hard to disagree with but I'm really more into acceptance of what is likely to happen mode. In an ideal world I'd love us to sign someone like Steve Clarke but I just don't see it happening under the Pozzo model.

    Just out of interest, who would those who want a new manager like us to get?
     
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  20. Chappers

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    It's impossible to compare a former England manager, one of Ferguson's proteges, a winner of the Dutch league who also somehow managed to take Middlesborough to a UEFA cup final (!!!) with a manager of Sannino's stature.

    Equally, taking nothing away from McClaren, Clough had done a great job setting Derby up over the last few years and had simply taken the club as far as he could. McClaren inherited a good squad who weren't even in a terrible position at the time and that's got a lot to do with his successful season. Although I do agree Sannino was an odd appointment when we could have tried for someone with English football experience.

    I really want it to work with Sannino as you can probably tell!
     
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