Do you trust Parkinson?

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In response to the thread title "no, not yet".

Let's see what he does, who he brings in by end Feb and how he moulds the team by Easter. but if he keeps making bad decisions on squad and formation I fear for the bloke.
 
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After the Lord Mayor's Show some poor ****er has to clean up all the horseshit and Parky got the short straw.

He was spot on last night. We need strong players with aerial threat and pace, not tubby midgets with an attitude problem.

He's identified one problem straight away and brought in a fitness coach which is more than Jack bothered himself with.

I say give him a chance before it gets even more farcical.
 
I was just reading the Roker Repot article about how long we persevere with him.

https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/20...-phil-parkinson-or-have-you-made-up-your-mind

I agree he should be given a little longer to see how we do in the league, but I appreciate others disagree.

For those who think we need a new manager now, we’ve seen the candidates - who do you want?
I've just hoyed this up on RTG so thought I'd share it here as it was in reply to Grumpy Old Man made about Shrewsbury and us winning 9 times out of 10 normally.

************ Thor'd ************

Against Shrewsbury we didn't convert the chances as we had plenty but the goal was as small as a 5 aside goal given the amount actually on target! The graph at the top shows which team had play during that time and normally like you say we'd have won that game. Apologies if images are big on a phone.

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A few of the chances are shown here.

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Shrewsbury were no easy pushover as they played Wycombe the week after and dominated the stats in a same way we did against them but also couldn't find the net. That defeat is currently their only loss in their last 10 games, 6 being in league.

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We've had 1 game in the league since Shrewsbury against Southend but it was the same old story, we couldn't convert!

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The 4 cup games since Southend need to be forgotten about given the chopping and changing of the team as now it's league games all the way to the end of season. One positive for me is that we've created over 60 chances in the least 4 league games away to Wycombe/Shrewsbury and home to Tranmere/Southend with Parkinson in charge, so over 15 per game. The problem is, getting them on target sometimes isn't great and then our conversion rate is poor when we do. It's all meaningless stats to the final score but at least it's better than creating nowt at all and not dominating games! If improve our conversion rate then at least we'll be creating enough chances to increase how any we score.

We're also missing a 1 goal in at most 3 apps striker as Grigg needs to gets some goals these next 2 games. His 1 in 15 return this season is ****ing shocking and if not that's it, play someone else even if it's a kid if McNulty isn't fit! If we had a 1 in 3 striker like most teams at the top then we'd have some extra goals and as Maja showed last season, these are goals that often help towards getting points from a game. Now we're out of the cups, the big test comes tomorrow and Tuesday and 2 good wins would change the mood of the players dramatically!

I got the stats from here

https://www.sofascore.com/team/football/sunderland/41

You can also look at the match center here for more stats/chalkboard/heatmaps etc here also so I won't bore you even more but it's not as bad as some like to make out or being distracted by the meaningless cup games and writing the season off already! <laugh><laugh>

https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/16/Fixtures/England-Sunderland
 
I've just hoyed this up on RTG so thought I'd share it here as it was in reply to Grumpy Old Man made about Shrewsbury and us winning 9 times out of 10 normally.

************ Thor'd ************

Against Shrewsbury we didn't convert the chances as we had plenty but the goal was as small as a 5 aside goal given the amount actually on target! The graph at the top shows which team had play during that time and normally like you say we'd have won that game. Apologies if images are big on a phone.

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A few of the chances are shown here.

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Shrewsbury were no easy pushover as they played Wycombe the week after and dominated the stats in a same way we did against them but also couldn't find the net. That defeat is currently their only loss in their last 10 games, 6 being in league.

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We've had 1 game in the league since Shrewsbury against Southend but it was the same old story, we couldn't convert!

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The 4 cup games since Southend need to be forgotten about given the chopping and changing of the team as now it's league games all the way to the end of season. One positive for me is that we've created over 60 chances in the least 4 league games away to Wycombe/Shrewsbury and home to Tranmere/Southend with Parkinson in charge, so over 15 per game. The problem is, getting them on target sometimes isn't great and then our conversion rate is poor when we do. It's all meaningless stats to the final score but at least it's better than creating nowt at all and not dominating games! If improve our conversion rate then at least we'll be creating enough chances to increase how any we score.

We're also missing a 1 goal in at most 3 apps striker as Grigg needs to gets some goals these next 2 games. His 1 in 15 return this season is ****ing shocking and if not that's it, play someone else even if it's a kid if McNulty isn't fit! If we had a 1 in 3 striker like most teams at the top then we'd have some extra goals and as Maja showed last season, these are goals that often help towards getting points from a game. Now we're out of the cups, the big test comes tomorrow and Tuesday and 2 good wins would change the mood of the players dramatically!

I got the stats from here

https://www.sofascore.com/team/football/sunderland/41

You can also look at the match center here for more stats/chalkboard/heatmaps etc here also so I won't bore you even more but it's not as bad as some like to make out or being distracted by the meaningless cup games and writing the season off already! <laugh><laugh>

https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/16/Fixtures/England-Sunderland
Good to know for what it's worth. A couple of fully functioning strikers and an attacking midfielder could save the season.

Grigg is baffling, surely it's not that hard to put the ball in the net
 
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Good to know for what it's worth. A couple of fully functioning strikers and an attacking midfielder could save the season.

Grigg
Grigg is baffling, surely it's not that hard to put the ball in the net
Well I think it’s actually the hardest think in football to do
 
Two of the reasons I wasn't calling for Ross's head was A, the main problem for me was our players simply weren't good enough rather than a piss poor underperforming manager and B, we'd end up appointing someone like Parkinson and end up going backwards.
Ross had a very good side last season. People seem to be wiping that from history and starting a clean slate from this one in his defence.
 
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I said 15 matches, but who would replace him ?. i see Barry fry is saying he wants at least £2.5m for maddison in january IF they Peterboro decide to sell him in the first place. Just think we could have had Toney i reckon for £5m if Grigg had not been signed hastely, but Maddison would be realistic. if i win the euros i am going to buy Toney/Maddison if that is legal through SAFC and pay them £30 - 40,000 a week each or £20,000 a goal.
 
I'm pretty disillusioned with the whole thing at the minute and it's annoying that, after some initial positive signs, we now don't seem to look any better under Parkinson than we were under Ross (and are arguably looking worse). That being said I think it would look incredibly amateurish if we bring a new bloke in and even contemplate sacking him because his first few games didn't go to plan. He's not even the type you would expect to come in and make a huge immediate impact.

I think we have to persevere with him, support him properly in January and get the pace and power that we've needed ever since dropping into this bloody league. He's been around this league long enough to know what it takes to get promoted and what we're missing. I'm not going to say I'm confident he'll get it right given time, but I think the issues are well above the manager. Plus there's the issue that if we kick him out after 2 months I can't imagine many serious managers wanting to come in, most would see it as a sign of major instability and we'd likely be hunting in a pool of people worse than we've got now
 
It seems clear that there's a split in the group from what Leadbitter said and going off the form of the players you mention it's logical to think it could be them with the problem.

One thing Parkinson has is experience and he should know how to deal with it as in giving them the boot from the team. If he doesn't deal with it and keeps on playing them because they're the best on paper he's a fool. We shall see.

Leadbitter, who has contributed nowt . Stealing a living.
 
Think what I read was that he wanted Grigg but not at the price as he thought there was better value elsewhere (Remember when David Moyes said that about Yann M'Vila!!!) - as you say, depends on what you believe

When you look from the outside, we are 4 points behind 3rd place with 2 games in hand on almost everyone between us and there (Coverntry are third!)

Win the games in hand and we are in a good position. We are capable of winning - I watched us against Tranmere and thought we played lovely football and controlled them very well. And we didn;t play 4-4-2!!

It's that eternal optimist in me that keeps on thinking these things though!! Even afer 38 years of watching SAFC, I've still not lost it

The result against Tranmere was because they were hopeless im afraid.
 
I trust him to know more about decent L! players than Coton and Hill - that's about as far as it goes. Whether he has the backbone to make sure he gets them in is another matter.
 
Same old crap now, players split into sections, fans worried and the good buzz long gone. PP is on a hiding to nothing with our midfield as it stands, January is a bloody long way off and we need a full midfield plus pacey striker imo. Need a bit of a early Christmas miracle to save our season atm.
 
It's got to the point with me now I don't care who gets the job....f*cking Santa Claus will do...just want a winning team.