I found this report. Apparently Liverpool are ready to offer Charlie Adam in part exchange for Clint Dempsey, there will be a cash difference. However it may not be as much as first thought. Apparently Fulham have dropped their asking price from £10 million to £8 milllion. Supposing we value Adam at £5.5 million that leaves a £2.5 million cash amount. Other news circulating is that Brendan Rodgers wants either Adam Johnson or Theo Walcott to add pace to his side. If he goes after Adam Johnson that may force City to go after Agger, who in my opinion is a player we cannot lose. Going after an Arsenal player is also tricky, they would dig their heals in and not sell to us due to us being a rival. If it were me, I would go after Tello to avoid such problems.
Surely the value that Fulham put on Adam is the one that matters as they would be happy to keep Dempsey.
Sorry its the offering club that puts the initial value on their offering player in part exchange. They then haggle. Liverpool may say £6 million and £2 million in cash. Fulham may say £5 million and £3 million in cash, Liverpool may then say £5.5 million and £2.5 milliion in cash, Fulham may then say..deal.
Possibly yes but Adam might just come good at the moment he should be first out but i keep forgetting he has only had two seasons in the top flight so maybe i have been harsh on him. As for johnson and walcott, if it is a choice between agger and johnson, agger all the way. Not sure about Walcott, i think his problem is he does not see himself as a winger so may be difficult to get him away, i think i read someone on another post say that the club who offers him a forwards position will be the club that gets him, think that person was right. Tello another risk would be better trying to bring those in situ on a bit and develop our players ourselves.
There could be something in the Joe Cole thing. I've just read another report that West Ham have offered £6 million for Joe Cole. We should snap their hands off.
Been thinking about this recently as we are rumoured to be involved in 2 transfers (Albert Adomah and Thomas Ince/Matt Phillips) where swaps are being bandied about. Dobbie, Lita and Monk are the players people are proposing we swap. In our case for example, if Blackpool want £3.5 million and we want to pay £2 million and Dobbie....if they say no that means he's not worth £1.5 million to them. Therefore if he is worth £1.5 million we'll be able to find someone to pay that and then Blackpool can have their cash in full for Matt Phillips. The fact that Dobbie's exit has been obvious to everybody for ages and yet nobody's coughed up £1.5 million yet means he's not worth that surely? Do you lot think you'll get £5.5 million for Adam on the open market? I don't.
A player plus cash offer is not the open market. Its a player plus cash offer. The offering club does have the right to set a price on their offering player, the accepting club has the right to accept/reject. Then they haggle until they come to a compromise.
Yeah but only if it's a player they really want. If their not so fussed on the player involved, but are prepared to take him at a very good price, Fulham will obviously value Adam very lowly as they'd much rather have £8-10 million for Dempsey (the money gives them flexibility). The other factor is, Adam isn't a direct replacement for Dempsey. They can't replace Dempsey's goals for £2.5 million. I understand why you hope this will happen but feel it is just wishful thinking.
I'd be happy with this...even if it was Adam (£4m) + £4m cash. Because Dempsey > Adam. Also, I'd like Adam Johnson. People talk about his attitude without any proof. He has said he would look elsewhere to get first team football, when he does play he either assists or scores in the little chance he gets. Mancini opted to buy Nasri's experience for £25m which has kept him out of the team. I think he is more proven than Tello and more dimensional than Wallcott.
This is the thing. Fulham know he's much better than Adam also. If I was them and thought Adam could be useful I'd value him at £2.5 million and want £7.5 million in cash.
I think Dempsey is worth bringing in,especially if we can offload Adam in the deal. We have plenty in our midfield with maybe another to arrive,and the likes of Jonjo should be given game time over Adam. Some poster's have said what do we do if Suarez or Borini are out injured for a while,well I think Dempsey would solve this problem as he is experienced enough to fill either an attacking midfield or striker role. He's got goals in him as he proved last season,what was it,one in two?Good going for a mid-table club. On the Adam Johnson thing,Iv'e said before I think he would be a fantastic acquisition on either wing, and provide competition for Downing. It's all dependant on price and weekly wage for me. Not sure on Walcott,can't see Arsenal selling to us anyway. And Agger,well he's going nowhere so doesn't come into the equation at all.
I've read a report that Manchester City have made a ''take it or leave it bid'' of £23 million for Daniel Agger and its been rejected. Manchester City have since pulled out of negotiations. This seems logical as they are on the verge of signing Jack Rodwell who can play centre back.
apparently a final offer from City has been rejected for Agger (but i don't know how reliable sauce is) probably just rumours like everything else, just hope its true. think we would accept £3.5 million value on Adam and pay £4-5 MILL cash on top for Dempsey, hopefully both sides would be happy with that deal.
Zingy, I'm all for giving someone a second chance. I've always thought an attitude problem can be easily spotted with wages offered. Let's assume we can convince City or Arsenal to part with Johnson or Walcott. Offer them a low wage starting point with built in rises based on performance. If they really want to play football & further their career they'll snap it up. If not they'll either stay where they are and sit & collect the money or go elsewhere to sit and collect the money. Easy test....We can't lose, if they say yes and actually do have attitude it won't cost us much while we try to shift the mistake on.
That sounds like a reasonable offer. From what I've heard Charlie Adam is the player that Fulham want in any part-exchange deal. He could do the job Danny Murphy did for them until he was released.
I've already phoned & paid a taxi to take him down to London! If we can get £1mil I'd take it and save a fortune on wages as well. £6mil is just crazy but happy to fleece Fat Sam out of as much moeny as possible.
