With "Holtgate" and Lambert walking for reason's that are to remain private which insinuates that there has been some kind of falling out with people higher in the club do you think that the club may have dropped a clanger? A lot has happened in such a short space of time and is rather hard to understand how it all went so wrong so quickly. If someone had said to me 3 weeks ago we would loose Lambert to Villa and Holt would hand in transfer request all in the space of 2 days I would of either thought they clinically insane or an Ipswich supporter, actually no difference really! If the whole Holt thing is down to him just wanting 1 more year on his 2 year contract then would you just give it to him?
This is a topic which I'm sure will create considerable debate. I'll give my view and I'm sure others will disagree with me. Had McNally not become our Chief Exec, I dread to think where our club would be now (we could even have gone into liqudation and be languishing in Leage 2!!!). I dare say your right when you say, "there has been some kind of falling out with people higher in the club", but I'm sure it was in the club's best interest and I fully support the stance they've taken. I also believe that PL had planned his move to VP some time before it all became public!!
Maybe it is a divisive question and I am happy with Hughton and the way the club has handled getting him in, but I am just struggling to understand what happened for things to change so quickly. It was all going so well with PL and GH and the all of a sudden BANG! I just want to know!! ha!
Agreed. But still rather sceptical about there being a falling out. For a new poster you're really sitting on the fence!
Lambert said in an interview that something happened that will probably remain private forever and that he had good reason to leave........... Weird.
I think holt is being handled correctly - although the message is he is not for sale, that is what you should always say. Every player has his price which may be met - it's a fine balancing act as we don't want a big disturbance in the dressing room The change of management may be a blessing in disguise with holty
Spot on cm and my feeling is that Holt has alienated quite a few Canaries fans with his antics on twitter (is he being coached by JB by any chance????). CH may be able to get a resolution to the situation, but I'm not holding my breath!!!!
I think the Holt affair has been handled correctly. As for some of the criticism levelled at McNally over Paul Lambert, I think, with the clauses that PL had put into his contract last year, Mc'Nally probably had limited options as to what he could or couldn't do. The thing is, he has brought in a superb replacement and things are looking very good for the future.
I don't see what else they could have done with Lambert situation, the mistake they probably made was trying to hard to keep hold of him and now that could possibly be the downer on the Lambert situation. If Holt really only wanted an extra year on his contract and than I think we should have given it to him, I do think he also wanted a lot more money too though and if it was outside our budget than no deal unfortunately Holt. Can't change our whole financial plans for one player. No board are perfect and there will be mistakes. I don't think they have made many and if they have in these last few weeks I think it was trying too hard to hold on to Lambert if he had that clause in his contract. To be honest the whole things is if's and but's because a lot of it is speculation but I definitely think Lambert's exit was inevitable especially after hearing about the wobble last year. I think he probably knew this was his last season with us and the reason he left is simply because he is ambitious.
Its hard to say regarding the Lambert situation as we don't and may never know all the facts. While Lambert did mention there were issues which would remain private, there were also comments from Mcnally insinuating it maybe due to his ambition outweighing the clubs. He also mentioned that their was a time about a year ago where Lambert's future was uncertain, but it was never stated when this was although it was not the Burnley offer. Really I'd imagine Lambert was just very ambitious and the club was not growing fast enough for his liking in which case no blame can be put on Mcnally or the board. I thing they have been fantastic over the last 3 years and have saved our club and transformed it into a successfully run business. The Holt issue has also been handled well by the club despite the efforts of his agent. Impossible to know for sure if any mistakes were made but IMWT
If there was a falling out id rather have McNally than Lambert. Ultimately we are a Premier League football club, maybe lambert if responsible for the premier league part but McNally is responsible for us still being a football club. I think the mistake would be to not sell Holt now, once the money is right, but with Hughton we have an excellent and highly respected manager so if lambert leaving was the boards fault, they tidied up after themselves nicely.
Lambert would have left regardless, just like his mentor MON who walked out on several clubs. Don't get me wrong, I fully appreciate the job PL and his team did but his ambition is far more important to him the Norwich City. I personally feel Villa is a huge mistake for PL ( a year ot two too early to leave City) McNally is the real force behind the club and will drive us forward. I personally never trust a man who never criticizes the players i.e the games against Sunderland and Liverpool where we played like complete w***ers , it's not real. PL was always going to leave. The reality is McNally and the board want to make us financially stable, which is correct. Lambert was just looking for an excuse to leave. Good luck to him and whoever else leaves but am only interested in Norwich City Now we have Hughton, a good choice. Onwards and upwards.................. this is just my opinion......don't expect people to agree
Mexican - I think you're absolutely right in what you say and I'm sure as the day progresses, we'll get others with an opposing point of view; but I'm with you 100%!! My feeling is that PL will struggle at Villa and it will be interesting who he tries to sign to support his stars such as Bent. Hughton is an excellent choice for us and to get Ewan Chester back as part of the deal can only be a good thing IMO.
You'll get no argument from me Mex, of course I'm disappointed PL didn't have the courtesy to finish the job he started, but DM is far more important to the well being of our club, and the speed with which the right man was installed as PL's successor shows that we're in safe hands! On to the next chapter! OTBC
Luckily Delia realised she was a great supporter but she had no idea how to run a football club. Initially, she appointed the wrong man, for Norwich, in Doomcaster. When things got very very precarious, she through circumstances appointed the man who has mixed it up at the club. No more turning up in your sports car at training and comlaining you are tired and have to go home. We are still a respected family type club but the management and players know that they are employees and have to act like it. So if any mistake has been made, its by people who think they are the saviours of the club and can make excessive demands.
DM is the boss, he has saved our club and thanks for that, maybe he makes a few mistakes on the way but hey if you stick to your pricncipals you will upset a few what the hell, we are going in the right direction and even if we do9nt survive the second season I will be confident my club will still be there to entertain in a lower league. Holtgate is being handled correctly and what happens happens lambert , well I thank him for what he did but obviously his time was up IMWT , In Hewton I believe
Did'nt Bowkett say at the Hughton Press conf. that PL was one of the most demanding men he had ever come across in business.That would suggest to me a falling out over budgets whether they were for players or PL personally.I think its the Martin O'neill/ Chase situation all over again ,although I would think that the present board were more realistic in terms of freeing up funds but obvoiusly not enough to meet PL expectations! The fact remains that we need new investment and quickly if we are going to run with the big boys and give the new manager a fighting chance. There must be some wealthy entrepreneurs out there whose favourite colours are yellow and green.
I think all this talk from the papers of Lambert and McNally "falling out" is seriously unlikely. Both are highly professional and experienced- particularly McNally. I cannot see them falling out because Lambert owed McNally a beer, but refused to get one in. They are adults and you can't really put them in the same category as some players who are frankly quite childish. If there has been a "falling out" it will have been purely professional- i.e. Lambert wanted the club to accelerate on and keep up with his ambitions, whereas McNally was being more prudent. Any suggestion otherwise I find hard to believe. Of course, they may simply not like each other that much, but that happens in any job and doesn't prevent a professional relationship.
completely disagree with this part. the whole reason the club is being run so stringently is so we never need a large investor who can either bankroll us or bail us out. to carry on progressing in the manner we are i think it would be better to keep the status quo - any new investor could rip up our new rule book and i personally don't want that. i want my club to be run as it is now and in the future be able to run without the need for premier league cashflow. investment could jeopardise that - if you read that sheik so-and-so is in charge, that plan goes out of the window. fans are quick to chase the dream. its not about competing with the big boys - that's almost certainly never going to happen in the current climate, investor or not. just to add, i fully expect that mcnally and lambert did have a bust up - they probably had many bust ups. it was almost certainly about finances. lambert wanted to improve on last season and the board, correctly will have pointed out that we need to make sure we've learnt to walk before trying to run a marathon. this is not unusual to be honest, especially when you get two fiery people working together. it strikes me lambert has been looking for a route out of norwich for some time, as illustrated by bowkett's hint at a 'wobble' last summer. the good thing is, mcnally won't stand for anyone stepping out of line. he's in control of our financial future and that comes a big first above all other things that may crop up. i think he may have made a mistake with lambert's contract - we don't know, there may be technicalities involved, but he's handling the holt case very well and has villa by the plums regards culverhouse and karsa.
