With MM stating that the boys were tired yesterday against Brighton, surely the game against villa is the perfect chance to give some of the kids and fringe players a game, and also resting our "tired" players. We have quite a few youngsters now that are, in my opinion, itching to get a first team game, therefore i feel now is the right time to see if they can hack it against an established premiership team. As the team now has renewed confidence, and we're playing against a team with very little confidence, we have nothing to lose (as most will expect us to lose this game), so surely give a few of the kids a game. I'd like to see the likies of Hewitt, Ainsley and Carson start on Saturday, with Murray, Lawrence, and maybe Mings getting a run out from the bench. What are other peoples opinions? Should we actually play our best available XI, and try and keep some consistency, and maybe even try to win the game? Or is it a case of the league is too important to be tiring out our best XI? With what we have available, i'd like to see the following team start; Loach Hewitt Chambers Ainsley Cresswell Carson Lawrence Hyam N'Daw JET Chopra Subs: ALB, Mings, Smith, Martin, Murray, Scotland, NRC
Burke, Whight, and Murray could be in the team, and Mings will have to be changed as one of your subs, he played in an earlier round, and thus is inelegible. Would certainly not play Cresswell or N'daw, they both need a rest. In Cresswell's case if he played and had a barnstorming game, this would put him in the shop window for predators, bear in mind Lambert was interested in signing him Got shot down on another thread here earlier, for daring to suggest we field a second string, and saying this match was not important. Think that some people get carried away with the romance of the cup, and their hearts perhaps rule their heads. However our league status has to be the priority, we have to play 46 tough league matches, all played at breakneck speed, the last thing we want are extra fixtures, playing first team players, let us not help opposition teams in the league, by being worn out before we start.
When I pay hard earned money to travel and watch my team play a competitive game of football I want them to be the strongest they can be otherwise what's the ****ing point? If we play just kids then I want a refund on my tickets because I don't follow Town for the benefit of my health!
Warky, I get that, but how are we supposed to bed in the youngsters?? Surely a competitive first team game, where the stakes aren't too high, must be the ideal time....no?
To be fair, I don't think centre backs need resting and NDaw probably could do with sitting this one out. Warky you're talking complete and utter pish. None of our team are bloody superstars. It's not as though the first XI oozes quality compared to the reserves and you're missing out on your chance to watch Messi. Get behind the players out on the pitch and if it means we score three points in the following league game it matters not an ounce what happens at Villa Park and if you don't want your tickets there are hundreds of others who would take your place.
Wow. This is causing a bit of a stir. I think we should go there as strong as possible as I feel we're in with a shout here.
Then you are in danger of taking too much out of the players, they need to be fresh for the more important league matches, it has happened in the past to teams who go on cup runs, and league form suffers, some indeed have been relegated, we only have a small squad. No brainer for me.
Well Chopra, Scotland, Hyam, and Henderson cant be tired although the speed that Henderson moved at for Brightons 3rd goal could give the impression that he is, my mum could have saved it and shes 89. Hampy to say that if travelling fans dont like the idea of us fielding a weakened side they should give up their tickets is just plain wrong. We travel to various places round the country to support our team and the cost of ticket, travel, refreshment and parking comes to more than enough, so do i expect our Club to field its strongest possible team? Bloody right i do.
Not dropping out the league I know is of paramount importance and in no doubt mick will do what he feels is right. But surely these guys can play 2 games a week. A cup run may be a welcome distraction from the league.
fieldmarshall, forgive me, I think it's a ridiculous attitude given that our 'strongest team' consists of players who were on the bench under previous managers. I can see why fans of the top Premier League sides would be annoyed not to see the superstars but really what's the fuss about seeing Lee Martin and Carlos Edwards? As for the tickets thing, Warky said he rather have a refund than back the kids. That's up to him. I don't go to watch town on the basis of which players the manager's picked, I go to watch my team.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with previous managers or the name of the players, you say you just go to support our team well join the club because thats what we all do. I expect us to contest every competitive match with the best team we can field from the players available, but if we dont do that then we are surely short changing our supporters who after the expenses we incur to travel deserve better. The supporters give maximum effort to support our side, the club should do the same. If you find that stand point ridiculous then by all means go ahead.
I honestly think Mick will start with his strongest 11 but that does mean giving the likes of Hyam, Hewitt, Chopra and JET as start, I don't think he's got alot of choice. Perhaps we'll have a few youngsters on the bench but again he'll not have a lot of choice. It'd be nice to give the likes of Chambers, Smith, Creswell, N'daw and Martin a rest but don't think he will on all counts the team I'd most like to see is. I have to say I'd like to see him not completely put loads of youngster in but it's a chance to try a few things, the league is priority but one thing from when McCarthy was at Wolves that annoyed me was him resting his 1st team against Man U, I hope he never does this (well I hope we get to play Man U in the league) with us, one thing I want to see is my manager go for the win against any team whoever that may be. The team I would pick would be: GK: Loach (even if Henderson wasn't fit, as I don't think there's much between them and Loach is ours) RB: Hewitt (Deserves a chance, as Orr has looked very average and despite Edwards looking good going forward in that position, defensively he's not a RB more of a wing back) CB: Chambers (not much choice but to start) CB: Smith (same as Chambers) LB: Creswell (same as Chambers) RW: Martin (for me Edwards hasn't done it on the RW and Martin often looks lost on the Left, would be far more effective on the right IMO) CM: Hyam (deserves a chance) CM: N'Daw (him and Hyam our best midfield pairing) LW: Murphy (Not alot else to play there, gives us height and can do a job out there and with players like Martin JET and Chops in the team need someone like this to balance it out IMO) ST: JET (best position centrally not a winger IMO and because we have Hyam and N'Daw in the centre we lack a bit of creativity, JET can make up for this) ST: Chopra (has looked good in the small amount of time I've seen him play up top with JET, they seem to be able to read each others game, Chops movement has generally always been good and JET is the best in our team at finding the defence splitting pass)
Absolutely spot on Fieldmarshall Saturday will be a 7 hour round trip for me and a tank of petrol and I dont want to be short changed! We should always play our strongest possible side in any competition we take part in otherwise what's the point!
Okay then, let us look at this conversely. Imagine we have a tough away league match, midweek a cup tie against a second division team, also away, then a tough home league match at home, all in a week. Mr. Jones and his family who are Ipswich supporters, have a round trip of 300 hundred miles to get to the game, incurring high expenses. Ipwich lose the match, showing obvious signs of tiredness, surely his within his rights to question the managers wisdom in picking a full strenth team for the cup match, as the league match is the teams bread and butter.
Very true, Over the last 3 or 4 years if I wanted a refund after every below par game I have seen then my season ticket would have been worth about £5.50. They are all ITFC first team squad players whether its Mings, who has been here a fortnight or the likes of Smith & Hyam who have been here for years. In addition after watching some of the performances of recent seasons then Im sure our fringe players can do an equal job. Ainsley done well in the few opportunities given to him. Carson over Martin is a positive for me, anyone over NRC is fine. Kelly Youga (albeit not youthful) was being spoken about highly on here by some when he joined.
I have to agree with this, does anyone really know our full strength side? I know most of us will have some idea or opinion on what that is, but in reality even MM doesn't know his players that well yet to have a definitive answer and every manager will say that they will put out the strongest 11 they think has the most chance of beating who is put in front on of them on the day whether this includes Lee Martin on the wing or Josh Carson they are all professional footballers who have a point to prove.. Even the ones with a good reputation (i.e. Chopra!) Whoever MM chooses I will back as I'm sure he has considered every possible angle when making this decision and he is ultimately the man we have employed (some hailed as our messiah) to lead us so I will accept his decisions and cheer on anyone wearing the Ipswich shirt
