So here is the penalty and red card table to date. Bournemouth have had twice as many penalties as the next nearest team, Middlesbrough, and heaps of opposition red cards. Biase or justified? Hard to say, but we all know they've had dodgy decisions all season, where would they be without those I wonder. We are always told that over the season these things 'even themselves out', doesn't appear very even to me.
Brentford have had a lot of reds against too - and I don't have stats to hand but 7 for us seems a lot compared to other years. I am guessing that the most attacking teams get the most decisions. The reason it is annoying in the case of Bournemouth is that it happens a lot in the bigger games.
Most teams are roughly even with the exception of Bournemouth and Brentford and at the other end Blackpool. One thing I have interest is in Bournemouth's penalty kicks which players obtain them?
great thread, over a season no over the long term yes it will even out . i think it was the great shanks (i dont like liv) that was asked why was liv so lucky he said the harder they worked the luckier they got . IN IT TO WIN IT
Ok,the neurosis continues...lets NOT enjoy Watfords success of late then! What a remark, we KNOW that club on the South Club we're obsessed with have had dodgy decisions ALL season....seen all their games in detail then ! You forgot to add the Watford Never Get Anything From Referees bit ?Some seem to have a particular problem with Bournemouth ,I think based on one incident in one match? Accepted that a wrong decision was made there,therefore all others given to them must be wrong too?? Surely it couldnt be that they CAN be seen as a smaller club than WFC (they were certainlygiven some pat-on-the-head treatment on here when they joined the Championship) and for some odd reason success is therefore resented. Well WFC aint quite Barcelona (yet!) What we have here is a 'survey'about bias based on just one season ,not even finished yet. I'm sure Bournemouth people would tell you of bad decisions given AGAINST them,and it would be the same story in every other club in existence. I suggest that Bournemouth have done bloody well,cant imagine they have massive funds. I'm no expert on them but style of play can come into it when fouls,penalties are given,and they are obviously an attacking outfit judging by goals scored. Am aware theres one player in particular there that is getting a bit of a reputation for acting, I dont like that type of player....but of course it wouldnt ever happen with any 'Orns player ! So why not have this club and them in the top 2 places come the end of the season ...would people REALLY prefer the same old names getting back in the Prem ? (sorry Norwich man !) Whilst I'm on Hornette re your post-Derby comments on Friday. Playing away against 30,000 lively fans -had only 10 men for a large period of the game ( sending off must have been wrong decision of course), showed a lot of resolve to come back from behind,get an away point against a team who only a short time ago were top.......and you ,in as many words,class that as a failure ???? What on earth do you want - a few penalties for or red cards for the opposition perhaps. And I'VE been accused on here of being negative !
the reason bournemouth get so many of both is mr wilson speed and being taken out as the last player rightly or wrongly . And as for the derby game yes we should have won it we was coasting it then bang bang . the one thing we have is the guts to never give up which filters down from troy
The distribution of penalties and red cards will always be uneven. The differences are far more likely to be the result of clumsy defending on the one hand and speedy attacking on the other. There is no conspiracy here. I suspect if it were our own team with a generous number of penalties we'd be celebrating our pacy attackers. Most clubs could probably list occasions when they've won penalties unfairly...at least one of our players has looked for them when they clearly weren't there. Focusing on referees when we're doing so well doesn't make much sense to me either.
I've never seen a decision like this before, could it start a new trend? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32231318
yes it rasies the point about our goal that never was against Reading now we should take the fa to court for lost of income because if we had won that game we would have pushed on won the div .then win epl the following year and then beat inter Milan the the Europe final the year after that .Lost tv rights for 10 years . lets just call it 10 billion and save the legal . Hang on have i just woke up .or has someone said ref get things wrong and they will put it right LOL
Bournemouth win penalties because of the way they play, look at the statistics of shots and possession, they must spend a lot more time closer to their opposition's goal than other teams do. That said, Callum Wilson has won more penalties for Bournemouth on his own, than any other team have won together. His total of nine is one more than second highest team, Middlesbrough's, total of eight. Is it because he is particularly quick or tricky and defenders have problems dealing with him; or does he fall over very easily? Best plan is not to give him the opportunity, but there is a flaw with that, he will probably score anyway.
I do feel like a little bit of a traitor, but I have seen 3 or 4 Bournemouth games as well as both games against Watford. They are a very attacking team, but Wilson also does go down rather easily... but most of those there is at least some contact. If it was the prem, the commentators would be saying 'he is entitled to go down'. Our match down there, an incident before their penalty he did go down rather dramatically which wasn't given but the one they won was a penalty, no arguments. As someone mentioned, the defenders are giving the referee a decision to make by making some silly challenges As for the red cards - as someone has said, the best stat would be to see how many were rescinded, so were a 'mistake'. We've had a few red cards for the other teams against us, other than Sakho, any others rescinded? How many rescinded red cards have their been in total this season? Does all this say more about Bournemouth or just the standard of refereeing.....
Oldnickhornet!!! Whilst i welcome your views I would like you to be more even in them as opposed to the negative slant that you prefer as you are very one sided. To update you I have not seen every Bournemouth game this season but I do have three relatives who are season ticket holders who have seen more than 90% of them and they tell me that Mr Wilson does go down at every opputunity. That the team seem to be actively incouraged to get into the referees face at every opputunity to try and influence him into taking action against opposition players or giving them penalties etc. They also state that in recent games against Boro, Ipswich and Birmingham they have felt embarressed at what they have seen their players doing at times which resulted in a penalty against Boro and a sending off against Birmingham. They also have a very rich Russian backing them and they tell me that they have heard rightly or wrongly that they are picking up Jones's wages whilst on loan from Cardiff to the tune of over 30k per week. Apart from that they are loving their season and the attacking free scoring team that they watch. In conclusion you must be taking to much notice of the media if you think that Bournemouth is a very small club, they are a bigger town, have a larger catchment area of fans not a few miles from the capital and an owner who makes the Pozzo's look poor in comparison. Their ground capacity may be much smaller but that at present does not hinder their day to day running hence their repeated bids for the Birmingham lad in January that topped 5 million!!! FFP? they don't seem to have heard of it in Dorset.
