Lets be frank.. Luis suarez is a diving cheat.. there i said it... but who gives a toss about the mouth pieces who lay claim to some long forgotten moral high ground when every club has a git of thier own... here's a small list just for kicks, please add to it if you wish. Arsenal: the entire team... especially that ramsey lad - or so pulis says! Spurs: Gareth Bale - the guy who freely amdits he's not taking any damage for that fat pay cheque. Manchesters other club: Ashley Young Nani- Ferguson admitted Nani “made a meal” of a challenge in United’s 3-2 defeat to Spurs, “Nani is not the type to dive, I know that,” said Ferguson. Valencia Evra RVP (formerly a gret arsenal flopper) KAGAWA... the worst diver without a rep out there. he falls over if a breeze blows past him. Liverpool Gerrard is the biggest diving cheat in the prem.. if he ever bothered to run. Luis "you know what you are" Suarez swan lake or the "nutmegger suite" ballerina everyone loves to hate. Manchester's real club: Nasri - a flopper extraordinaire Aguero Chelsea: Torres Mata Hazard Ivanovic - pulis says so right? Cole but special mention to the floppers of christmases past has to also be made. Robben, Ronaldo, dorgba, klinsman et al? ... and what do they all have in common? THEY WERE BLOODY GOOD AT IT AND IT GOT UP THE SELF RIGHTEOUS FANBOYS NOSES!!!! I ask you, would you rather you player be an artist at this skill or be like this chump? [video=youtube;ICPyr0q0doY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICPyr0q0doY[/video] (note the ref waddling off like the fat fool he is trying to pretend nothing happened) The only law against diving should be for embaressingly bad dives, peopel who have grace and acrobatic ability should be rewarded for making defenders look like donkeys, defenders take note!
I dont get wound up with players that dive, I would rather they stayed on their feet but don't tend to have high blood pressure if they dive. Everyone loves to hate Suarez at the moment which is why he gets so much media attention.
You left out the Olympian Oscar, booked already. Out of that list Suarez is poorest at the diving trade. He gets slated for being crap at it, making it obvious, so, if he's not gonna make it obvious then it will be OK? I doubt it. Wayne Rooney is a far worse diver, so is Bale. I remember mancs making so many excuses for Ronaldo, he's quick and light on his feet they said so went down easy But Suarez has cement in his boots? Pires was a dreadful diver, invented kicking the keeper and going down, Ashley Young has studied this well. Suarez mistake was thinking Mason saw his foot being clipped.
A Bale cameo. This is te kick the foot out Pires type dive. [video=youtube;VxohXc99Hvc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxohXc99Hvc[/video]
In this check out rooney's late dive, just like Suarez yesterday, exactly like it except Rooney was never touched prior to diving. At 1min. Gets his buddy Webb to book the chelsea player n all. How on earth does Rooney not get sent off for the tackle at the end of this vid? [video=youtube;zm5-zLu8S9U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm5-zLu8S9U[/video]
The others are worse than Suarez who feels contact and goes down, albeit late. The others are premeditating their dives tbh if Suarez wants to be good at diving he needs as others do, to plan to go down in the first place instead of waiting to be fouled. Thats the main difference here and strangely.. it's why he is getting slated.
Hate them, should get a game ban for deliberately trying to cheat. Suarez is probably the worst in football right now a long with Bale. [NSFW] please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image [/NSFW]
Vieras one at Anfield was a classic We've had a fair list when you think about some of our terrible floppers...Downing, Mandy, Owen, Ngog, Baros, Babel all had their own special moments of utterly embarrassing "falling down because he breathed on me".
I don't blame the players at all. They are taking advantage of the fact that the refs are all terrible and the fa wont do anything to help them, diving in the premiership only exists because the fa have alllowed it to exist, they have the power to stop it by handing out bans but they choose not to for whatever reason.
Players are 100% to blame, ref's make mistakes, they always will. Players cheating make the game even harder for referee's to get decisions correct.
Players shouldn't dive it's quite simple. Maybe a harsh punishment would help the situation but then you are going to get players being banned when they have gone down after a foul and the ref gets it wrong.
Q. Who won the last Fair Play Award? A. Who gives a ****? Q. How many times has England won the Fair Play Award? A. Who gives a ****? Saints preserve us from the sanctimony of our bin-raking, phone-tapping, build 'em up to knock 'em down media. Wall-to-wall coverage of Suarez going down but not a byline on violent conduct against him. If you're going to stamp on somebody make sure it's genuine and not a fake stamp. Priorities appear to have taken a dive, followed by several rolls along the ground. The media holds its face after getting hit in the ankle by a cushion. Rodgers needs to have a word with Suarez but the media need to have a word with themselves. The rest of the world laughs at us and our stiff upper lip sense of fair play, which we're not averse to conveniently skipping when it comes to declaring illegal wars, or extraditing suspected hackers on trumped-up terrorism charges. Other cultures see it as a cute tricking of the ref. We see it as cheating. And that's why we can win the Fair Play Award while the ones who win the World Cup tend to be Italy (cheating's in their DNA); Argentina and the Hand of God, going on to win the World Cup while our media cried the tears of whiny losers; and Germany, with Klinsmann turning diving into both an art and a science. Most media muppets don't even know the rules for a foul include intent. Contact is not specifically required. If a player sticks a leg in for a tackle and doesn't win the ball but causes the player in control of the ball to lose his balance trying to ride the tackle it's a foul, as happened to Stevie to win a penalty a few years ago. It seemed to me Suarez got a tap on the ankle and was already off-balance - in what yoga calls the Downward Dog position - realised he wasn't going to get any advantage staying up so went down to make it clear to the ref. The initial intent was to tackle him but the tackle didn't win the ball, therefore it was a penalty by the time he actually went down. His going down should've been considered as happening after the whistle should've blown. We was cheated.
You need to add Agger to the Liverpool list Edit: I wonder how annoyed Carragher gets when they dive in training...?
Thats why the fa should have stamped out diving ages ago, the refs are clearly not up to the job and by introducing bans the fa would stop diving and help the rubbish refs out. You say the refs will always make mistakes and thats prob right but they should not be making glaring obvious errors every week like they do now, it does'nt happen in any other major sport because they help their refs with video tech and the likes. The players will take advantage of **** refs and **** rules if you allow them to.
But there are also times when a player is fouled but they stay on their feet and nothing is given. A player normally has to go to ground to get the already deserved freekick. Yes, the players are diving and are obviously to blame when they do it, but the authorities need to take more responsibility for their actions too. Same goes for the shenanigans they go off in the box at corners and set-pieces. If you are going to warn the players then warn them, but if they continue to act inappropriately (as per the warning) then book them. If it results in a red card, so be it. Same again for fouls in the box that are not given because they are in the box, ITS A FOUL!!!!
Hold on now MFG, the entire circus say Suarez was never touched, what you say, accurate or true does not fit in with the nonsense. I said on match day thread right after it happened. Yeah he ham'd it up but it was in fact a penalty. But making sense and football fans do not go together in general. The FA would have had to do RvP if they done Huth and well, it worked out for RvP and United but not for Suarez and Liverpool. Hmmm yet again we get shafted while United get an assist.
The only real defense for the fa is that dives can be very borderline. Like Hansen said, sometimes you can watch a reply 10 times of a certain incident and still be unsure whether it was a dive or not.
They would not have to hand out bans for every incident, just the ones that are clear cut like Suarez or Gareth Bale at the weekend.
In case you need to go to specsavers, suarez should have had a penalty even before he belly flopped, no mention of that though, he got fouled yet again and no whistle so he made the most of it. People are just too ****ing ******ed to get simple logic
