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Did they or didn't they?

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  1. CyprusMackem

    CyprusMackem Active Member

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    visit the ref at half time.
    Pardew says no. MON says yes.
    One thing is for certain Mr Dean was far more lenient on Newcastle in the second half. Maybe someone pointed out if he sent a Mag off they'd have a riot.
    Surly the truth will come out in the Refs match report.
     
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  2. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Well after his first half showing you wouldn't be surprised if they did visit him. He evened it out 2nd half so fair enough overall.
     
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  3. silksworthexile

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    Well if Pardew did visit the ref at half-time - is this allowed ? Anyone know the answer because if it isn't then surely action should be taken against the slimey cockney t**t !
     
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  4. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    The refereeing officials have themselves said no meeting ever took place. Seems to be only one set of people here claiming it took place.
     
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  5. Apone

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    Evened out?

    What about Simpsons numerous fouls on McLean?
    Krul raising his hands?
    Tiote numerous fouls unpunished?
    Colocini going through the back of our player 1 minute after the Cattermole booking.

    Your looking at it through black and white glasses mate. Could argue I'm looking at it through Red and white ones but there's 2 sides to it
     
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  6. CyprusMackem

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    From the Black and White Chronicle.

    "Newcastle coach John Carver also had the temerity to brand O’Neill a ‘liar’ after the Irishman revealed a member of the United backroom staff had visited the referee’s room at half-time when, in fact, O’Neill was correct."

    If this is true there has to be action taken, seems the SDA is rotten from Ashley right down to Pardew's puppet, Carver.
     
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  7. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    CONFUSION and contradictions flew around the Sports Direct Arena Press room yesterday over “Ref-gate” – the suggestion that Newcastle’s coaching staff had gone to see referee Mike Dean at half-time.

    Sunderland boss Martin O’Neill and his players understood that was exactly what had happened and that planted the seed of doubt in their minds about how the referee handled the second half.

    But Newcastle were adamant that no such meeting had taken place and that, despite the Magpies goalkeeping coach, Andy Woodman, being sent off at half-time in the tunnel, no attempt was made to seek a meeting with the officials in their room.

    Later in the day, highly-placed sources at Newcastle confirmed that referee Dean had not been confronted by backroom staff. But, at the same time, highly-placed sources at Sunderland were confirming that they certainly had.

    O’Neill’s take on it was this: “We’re not party to what was said, but what I would say is that I think that Newcastle would consider themselves lucky to have 11 men still on the pitch by the final whistle.

    “That probably wouldn’t have happened if the referee had continued to referee the game the way he’d started it.

    “I thought there were a number of incidents in the game that might have been dealt with more harshly.

    “Those incidents might be replayed ad nauseam, but it doesn’t really matter now, because they weren’t given.

    “It’s unfair of me to make a judgment on what was said because I don’t know what was.

    “But if the referee allows someone to come in to to talk to him, that’s his prerogative.”

    O’Neill also felt that concerns over the half-time incident could directly have contributed to Lee Cattermole’s post-match outburst and red card.

    “Lee was wrong to do what he did, but there might have been mitigating circumstances,” he said.

    “I think he felt the referee didn’t finish the game the way he’d started – that a lot of fouls weren’t more harshly dealt with in the way they might have been in the first half.

    “We’d heard some of their staff had visited the referee’s changing room at half-time and, while we’re not party to what was said, there was a feeling that a lot of decisions went Newcastle’s way in the second half and they could consider themselves lucky to have 11 men still on the pitch by the end of it.”

    Alan Pardew, though, utterly rejected the claims being made by the Sunderland camp.

    “We didn’t have a deputation going to see the referee at half-time. That’s completely untrue,” said the Newcastle boss.

    “I heard that rumour and it’s not right.”
     
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  8. CyprusMackem

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  10. CyprusMackem

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    It works for me.
    Just to paraphrase...It shows Pardew to be a liar.
     
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  11. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    As I say I thought he favoured you massively first half, and then favoured us 2nd. No black and white glasses, that's just how I saw it. If I wanted to look through black and white specs, I'd just say he favoured you for the whole game. You should never get sent off for pushing in the chest like Krul or pushing your head into someone like McClean and Simpson did. Tiote I'm not sure what games Sunderland fans watched to be hoenst, I didn't see much wrong. he got booked for persistent fouling which was fair enough.

    To be honest though it all matters not because both sides could poitn to a list of about 10 incidents that didn't go their way. Turners handball etc.
     
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  12. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Looks like we have O'Neill on one side claiming they did visit, then Newcastle officials and the match officials on the other side saying there was no meeting. I think it looks as though O'neill is just lying. He should really be punished for that. Its bringing the game into disrepute by slandering match officials like that. He is basically calling the ref corrupt. He needs to be taught a lesson with a touchline ban, its only fair on the officials. Always been like this O'Neill, proper little cheat.
     
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  13. MrRAWhite

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    In the first half the ref had a decent game, although I would say the Skunks still got away with at least five challenges that were at least as bad as Cattermole's without getting booked. In the 2nd half, the ref was nothing short of disgraceful, and I steted yesterday before having any knowledge of this 'visit' to the refs dressing room, that, that the only logical explanation was that he was got to at half time.
     
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