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Deputy Mayor backs Car Giant

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  1. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    Huge blow for QPR as Deputy Mayor backs Car Giant regeneration plans
    QPR finally secured three points away from home on Tuesday evening, but their plans to build a new stadium at Old Oak Common have today suffered a fatal blow.

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    QPR will have to rethink their lofty stadium ambitions. Credit: PA
    Last year, the Premier League club announced plans to create 55,000 new jobs with 24,000 homes and a new 40,000 capacity stadium on land owned by Car Giant, the world's largest car dealership.

    Car Giant weren't consulted by the club before last year's announcement and made it clear they were planning to regenerate the land themselves.

    They have been working closely with the Greater London Authority for several months, and London's Deputy Mayor for Planning, Sir Edward Lister, today confirmed:

    Old Oak Common represents an unprecedented chance to create a truly new piece of London. Car Giant is set to play an enormously important role in the regeneration of the area and we are already working with their development partner London & Regional as they help to deliver the Mayor’s vision for much needed new homes and jobs. Following the Government’s approval of our plans to set up a new Development Corporation, there is now real momentum as we look to maximise this once-in-a-generation opportunity.
     
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    The above is from ITV news. The claim is that it's a fatal blow - the question is whether this is true or journalistic overstatement
     
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  3. Ranger

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    Doesn't rule out that they are working along with the QPR plan.... Only says Car Giant are part of the development.
     
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    we only need 15 ****ing acres for a stadium.
     
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    The profit lies elsewhere in the development though. That will help with stadium overall costs.
     
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    Really? I'd never worked that out. All that says to me is that every other club which has built a new stadium can't ever pay for it or make it pay it's way. Is that true? Or is it that our owners are vitally interested in making a huge packet for themselves.
     
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    Sorry mate. Didn't mean to offend.
     
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    No, I should apologise, I'm just sick of this farce. And it's the knowledge that, whether its Car Giant or QPR's owners, it's driven by greed and Fernandes has said there is no plan B that is testing my patience. If it works and we end up with an atmospheric stadium with reasonably priced seats and a club not saddled with debt I don't really care if men who already have more money than they can spend get some more. All we need is 15 ****ing acres, at most. Brentford have done it with 8.
     
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    KooPeeArr Well-Known Member

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    Is this the same Lister who backed our bid a couple of months ago or did we get the backing of the one whose only companions are a hologram and a creature that evolved from the ship's cat?
     
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    Yeah, Tory I think. Or perhaps Labour. Who knows? May be that he has been told his previous support for us was biasing the debate and to balance it out. Or he may just be a ****.
     
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    You seem particularly acerbic this evening Stan?
     
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    Completely **** day at work with people who are very lucky to be 4,000 miles away from me, and one in Paris. The only upside is that I am now drinking wine and they are still in the office.

    Apologies in advance for my posts this evening.
     
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    No apology needed as far as I can see. We all get them.
     
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    The same Sir Edward Lister that stressed the importance of a football stadium to a redevelopment.
    Fatal blow my arse. It says nothin more than that Car Giant most likely will be involved in the redevelopment.
     
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    Im not losing sleep over it, i'll probably be dead before then or bloody senile, probably take 10 years to sort the planning out
     
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    I would check the previous owner of his datsun ..
     
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    <whistle>

    Worth mentioning, although I know its been said before that Car Giants Owners are QPR fans. Chris Mendes I think is the son, who regularly contributes to the Open all R;s podcast. He has made it perfectly clear they are not happy about they way things have been done and how they've no intention of making way for us. Business is cold but I for one don't want us bullying local business because we think we are big time.

    Anyone seen the plans for a low cost, government backed, investors wanted expanse traversing device, don't bother calling QPR.
     
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    "Cargiant unveils team that will head up Old Oak Common redevelopment which jeopardises chosen site for new QPR stadium
    18:13 12 February 2015

    Lorraine King

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    Old Oak Park is the largest site in Old Oak Common

    The team which will head up the development of the largest site in Old Oak Common have been unveiled – putting plans for a new QPR stadium in further jeopardy.




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    An image of QPR's new stadium, which is planned as part of the Old Oak Common development
    Cargiant, the largest private land owner of Old Oak Park in Harlesden, have appointed 10 seperate organisations or companies for the project spanning over 47 acres.

    Tony Mendes, managing director of Cargiant, said: “I’m delighted we have appointed our full masterplanning team and to have such expert partners working with us.

    “As a major landowner and one of the most successful local businesses in the area, we are an important part of the community and best placed to understand what is right for the site.

    “We are committed to delivering a scheme of exceptional quality, which brings real benefit for local people. We want this to be a part of London we would all be proud to live in and visit.

    The Cargiant Old Oak Park team
    London & Regional Properties - Development Managers

    DP9 - Planning Consultants

    PLP Architecture - Masterplanners

    Arup - Infrastructure and engineering

    iCube - Transport

    West 8 - Landscape Architects

    Aecom - Energy and sustainability

    Quod - Socio-Economics

    Tavernor Consulting - Heritage

    Waterman Group - Environmental Impact

    London Communications Agency - Consultation and Communications

    “There is already great momentum behind the project and we look forward to talking to local communities in the coming months so that those who already live and work around Old Oak Common directly help to shape its future.”

    The appointment has dealt a further blow to the plans by the Premier league team to create their own vision on a section of Old Oak Park by building a new stadium and hundreds of homes.

    If QPR choose to go ahead on their chosen site they will need to buy some land of Cargiant, which has been unsuccessful so far, or obtain a Compulsory Purchase Order.

    According to a source a CPO would be unlikely because Cargiant are willing to redevelop the land, the cost of obtaining one could exceed £1miliion and the time to be granted one could take as much as ten years

    Last month, Eric Pickles, the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, approved a scheme by the Mayor of London to regenerate Old Oak Common which promises to boost the economy in the area by £15billion through the creation of a brand new city with up to 24,000 homes and more than 55,000 jobs.

    Two new train stations which interchange with railway projects HS2 and Crossrail could be built in Harlesden under the plans drawn up by the Mayor of London Boris Johnson.

    Commenting on Cargiant’s plans, Sir Edward Lister, Deputy Mayor for planning said: “Old Oak Common represents an unprecedented chance to create a truly new piece of London.

    “Cargiant is set to play an enormously important role in the regeneration of the area and we are already working with their development partner London & Regional as they help to deliver the Mayor’s vision for much needed new homes and jobs.”

    QPR declined to comment." - Ok, so I will. Fc uk it!
     
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    The deputy mayor is from the other political side I think. Political ping pong. Not sure of the legs on this.
     
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