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Depth of Squad, A Myth?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by cheshireles, Dec 20, 2015.

  1. cheshireles

    cheshireles Well-Known Member

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    The more we keep getting fed that we have a squad with lots of depth, the more you are inclined to buy into it, personally I believe our squad does not possess the depth that most punters and fans suggest.

    For me Greegsy, albeit he's currently playing well does not have a strong challenger for his spot, The Jak for me is simply not good enough.

    As for Dave at right wing back, who the hell is pushing him for his position? From what I've seen so far not value for money, £3.5m! Can we get a refund?
    Robbo, at left wing back, who is pushing him, and who is a proven left wing back? We don't have one
    Central defence we look okay on paper, but the hard facts are that we only have one consistent performer in Daws, and Harry although he will come good, isn't the quickest. Curtis is a million miles performance wise from were he was, and Junior wouldn't be here but for hid dad.
    Centre midfield is the one area were we have plenty of options, but Brucey seems devoid of ideas as to what is his best line up, and how to get them to work best together
    Up front we are lightweight. We need at least 2 proven options, ideally 3-4, we have in my view only 1, Hernandez. Diomande may come good, but Bruceys 'budget striker signings' have all without exception failed!

    Feel free to disagree, just thought I would put it out there
     
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  2. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    Er...
     
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  3. TigerRoo

    TigerRoo Well-Known Member

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    You have some moot points my friend.
    How many of our current squad would cement a regular place in the side should we secure promotion back to the Premier League?
     
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  4. BOJACKHCAFCMAN

    BOJACKHCAFCMAN Well-Known Member

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    This old canard about Maguire being 'not quick', he is perfectly quick enough but is still learning the game at this level as is Clucas, Brucey doesn't help these lads by dropping them when they need to play constantly, especially Maguire last week, fair enough Clucas might need a break. We have a cracking young striker Luer who isn't getting the opportunities he needs, he should have played against Man City after playing the earlier rounds, massive rick that by Bruce in my opinion especially as Hernandez got injured as a consequence. Meyler should have had a break this week too after coming back from injury and Hayden would be the obvious choice, why does he not pick Hayden? 3 games in quick succession for Meyler and we lose.
     
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    kingstontiger Well-Known Member

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    Agree with pretty much all of this. I think all this stuff about what a great squad we have is delusional. We have lost Dawson in the back four and look lost. We have a lot of midfield players but arguably only 2 Meyler and Livermore who can really play central midfield in a 4-4-2. And we have so far only had evidence that Hernandez is up to the job as a striker - judgement obviously out on Diomande.
     
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  6. TigerRoo

    TigerRoo Well-Known Member

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    Careful what you say about players who are considered to be 'strikers' - they are classed as 'sacred cows' on these boards and are not to be criticized at any time by anybody. You will be referred to as an 'arsecunt'. You have been warned. Signed, 'a friend'!
     
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  7. TIGERSCAVE

    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

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    I've done a long bike ride today, plenty of time to think about our situation and have questioned myself on the following and would genuinely like to hear peoples comments.
    i've never rated Bruce as a tactician, his attitude of score and defend even when on top frustrates the hell out of me and on a number of occasions last season costs us points which may or may not have affected our status. But more worrying for me is that in the 3 years he has been here his dealings in the transfer market have been nothing short of abysmal (exception Dawson) Not only with the money that he has spent and wasted but and here is a major concern our use of the loan market. I believe that we are allowed more loanees than we currently have (prepared to be shot down) and those from one club. If SB's reputation is so high why aren't we able to go to clubs and say 'we're pushing for promotion, lots of pressure, we need a defender or midfielder'. Why when Pearson was here were we seemingly able to raid Manchester United at will and yet Bruce who supposedly has strong links with the club along with Phelan of course not able to tap into their talent pool, or that of other clubs. Whenever we are associated with a signing it seems to be someone he has had under his wing before, the latest being MacMannaman. It strikes me that a large majority of loans result in purchase, not just at this club, so that suggests that those we are loaning are deemed not good enough at their parent clubs. Our scouting set up seems beyond poor.. I am reading today that Sheff Wed are scouting in Portugal, another club scouting in Greece where players aren't getting paid. Clubs in the south seem to be a able to find quality non league and lower league players at will and yet Bruces finds in 3 years here have been Robertson, Maguire and Clucas… I wouldn't add Aluko. The players we have sold for good money have been acquisitions of Nigel Pearson, who, for all his faults must be god at Leicester for finding Vardy and Mahrez for peanuts along with Albrighton etc etc.

    To some up, not only is Bruce a poor coach for me, but behind the desk he is seemingly no better. He definitely has a naughty step and it a lot higher than Browny's used to be which is potentially the caveat for our current problems.

    Im reading on another thread that Everton are interested in signing Jarrod Bowen, good luck to the lad because under Bruce the closest he will come to the first team is giving out Lucozade bottles.
     
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  8. BOJACKHCAFCMAN

    BOJACKHCAFCMAN Well-Known Member

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    The naughty step point is valid, I have my suspicions about Hayden and maybe some others being on it. I noticed Bruce fawning over Mourinho in the media this week, maybe he's thinking he can pick up some loanees from wherever he ends up, possibly Man U
     
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  9. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    Maybe any possible loan targets read these boards and see what a load of moaning bastards we have masquerading as fans and decide to give us a wide berth?
     
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  10. TIGERSCAVE

    TIGERSCAVE Well-Known Member

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    Definition of a fan . and I quote ....is a person who is emotionally and enthusiastically devoted to something or somebody. As such in voicing my (and many others like me) digust at the tripe being served up by the players and the manager of Hull City football club I don't think myself and others are masquerading at all…. Good enough for you..!!!!?
     
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  11. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    Half these ****s wouldn't know how to work a dictionary, they don't come with instructions.
     
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  12. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    You might call that a moot point. ;-)
     
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  13. BOJACKHCAFCMAN

    BOJACKHCAFCMAN Well-Known Member

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    Some dictionaries do come with instructions Sterling, especially the foreign language ones- I get what you're saying though!
     
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  14. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    Even when Hull City were six points adrift at the bottom of the Football League, which wasn't so very long ago ( look it up) I and those who stuck by the club never showed disgust in the club and described them as tripe. We supported and believed.
    Your type of support isn't mine.
    That's how we differ.
    It is your entitlement.
    I don't have to look up the definition of 'fan' in the dictionary. I know what it means and how bitter and sweet it can be. Rough and smooth. But always a fan.
     
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  15. BOJACKHCAFCMAN

    BOJACKHCAFCMAN Well-Known Member

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    As if any footballer these days gives a ****
     
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  16. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    It was sarcasm which was obviously lost on you.
     
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  17. tigerrev

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    Cheshire makes some valid points. Hayden must be out of favour or surely he would have started some games recently? Curtis will be gone in January IMO - and I would add Huddlestone and Diame, but on current form I'm not sure who - if anyone would take a punt on either, Failure to find an effective and creative midfield from the options we have is surely our biggest frustration. We stumbled on the Meyler / Livermore axis which worked well for a few games, but now that seems to be floundering against some opponents. Surely its horses for courses and some matches will demand the combative midfield and others the more creative talents of either (or both) Thudd and Diame, perhaps backed by Hayden? We don't seem to be able to work out our opponents beforehand (the way Derby and Reading did us) and have an effective game plan :steam:
     
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  18. BOJACKHCAFCMAN

    BOJACKHCAFCMAN Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand what you mean by 'your type of support' in reply to Tigerscave either, we are all fans together at the end of the day. If nobody had an opinion then what's the point of this place.
     
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  19. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    I'm not Sterling.
     
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  20. BOJACKHCAFCMAN

    BOJACKHCAFCMAN Well-Known Member

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    As usual, you are right!
     
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