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Defending All Over the ****in' Shop Yet Again!

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by wishiwasinliverpool, Dec 13, 2015.

  1. wishiwasinliverpool

    wishiwasinliverpool Well-Known Member

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    **** off, Mignolet, yer ****in' moron! <grr>

    As for Lovren, that was a bad tackle and that WBA bastard should have gone off for that! Could have permanently ended Lovren's career, that! <grr>

    I am seriously displeased! <grr>

    Hello :)
     
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  2. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    hello wishi lol.

    we have not been the same at the back since we lost reina, and the last time we had a solid cb pairing i think was carra and hypiia.

    lovren skrtel and kolo are a joke, and migs is nearly as bad.

    can punishment still be taken against player(not that that is ever any consolation to the team that was on the end of it)? i dont think it can but was a disgusting challenge that has gone unpunished

    at least we got a point <laugh> what a shambles.
     
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  3. The IncREDibles

    The IncREDibles Well-Known Member

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    Mignolet's the problem - the defence doesn't have confience in him. This might sound stupid, but I don't believe our back 4 is any worse that Utd's first choice defence. The difference is De Gea, not just because he's a better keeper, but because the relationship between him and the defence is generally top notch, and its helped to mould seemingly average defenders like Smalling into good ones
     
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  4. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Id say the opposite. Skrtel is the problem and mignolet doesn't have confidence in him (and Lovren) defending properly so ends up taking more risks.
     
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  5. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Total ****e all round. Bring back Joe Allen.
     
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  6. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    The whole unit is messed up. Klopp has actually done a decent job to stop the flow of goals by putting in shape and structure.

    However, one thing he can't do is teach/coach experienced defenders to cut out individual mistakes.

    Mignolet, Skrtel and Lovren just aren't good enough for this club. Maybe they have a place on the bench but they certainly should not be starting.

    Unfortunately, we have few options so Klopp is making do for now. We have seen some Improvment.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    There was no free so I assume this will get the same as sweinsteiger. 3 matches
     
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  8. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    I think we play a centre mid too much in most games and should remove one of our 3 central midfielders and put an attacking midfielder on in their place. I also think Origi deserves a run up front instead of Benteke & Allen should be playing in place of Milner who has been pretty poor overall for us.
     
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  9. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Can Lucas Hendo

    rather have that midfield
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I'd rather we got a scrap of width at times and passed it faster and stop taking so long to do anything. That's the real issue.
     
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  11. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Again I think there's a problem of them not getting into the box regularly. I know Henderson did today but he doesn't do it regularly and Can/Lucas won't do it either. Means our striker is always going to be outnumbered when a cross comes into the box because our wingers rarely get in there either.
     
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  12. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Who else is there that would?
     
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  13. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    I mean subbing someone like Firmino in for one of them so you have a 4-2-3-1 rather than a 4-3-3 which would mean 1 extra pure attacker.
     
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  14. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    You're no better defensively than you were prior to his arrival imo.

    You're still conceding sloppy goals from both set plays and open play.
     
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  15. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Because our cb's are a load of crap <ok>
     
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  16. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Klopp has come in and had a look at what he's got. He's done very well, apart from the last couple of games.

    At this stage players are still very much bring auditioned by Klopp, he'll sort it out and get what he needs in, We're left with a load of Bodgers players - 2 windows with Klopp and our team will be full throttle.
     
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  17. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Nope - we're conceding less since Klopp's arrival, and certainly less from open play.

    We're not being cut open with such ease thanks to an improvement in structure and team shape.

    Individual errors are still letting us down thanks to **** players. You can't coach a 30 year old Skrtel on how to defend.
     
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  18. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Exactly - I'm happy to write this season off just as long as we see improvement in style and structure which we have done.
     
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  19. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    You've conceded 5 in your last 3 league games, against the might of West Brom and Newcastle

    To state as a fact that he's improved you defensively at this point is delusional, sorry.
     
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  20. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    And how many have we conceded since he took over?

    I believe it's still less than a goal a game which is better than Rodgers over his entire 3 year reign.

    So yes we have improved. It's not perfect or good enough but still a big improvement from the **** show we were used to under Rodgers.

    I accept your apology for being wrong.
     
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