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Dedicated to Lance Armstrong

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by redruthyella, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. redruthyella

    redruthyella Active Member

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    Oh life, it's bigger
    It's bigger than you
    And you are not me
    The lengths that I will go to
    The distance in your eyes
    Oh no, I've said too much
    I set it up

    That's me in the corner
    That's me in the spotlight
    Losing my religion
    Trying to keep a view
    And I don't know if I can do it
    Oh no, I've said too much
    I haven't said enough

    I thought that I heard you laughing
    I thought that I heard you sing
    I think I thought I saw you try

    Every whisper
    Of every waking hour
    I'm choosing my confessions
    Trying to keep an eye on you
    Like a hurt, lost and blinded fool, fool
    Oh no, I've said too much
    I set it up

    Consider this
    Consider this, the hint of the century
    Consider this, the slip
    That brought me to my knees, failed
    What if all these fantasies come
    Flailing aground
    Now I've said too much

    I thought that I heard you laughing
    I thought that I heard you sing
    I think I thought I saw you try

    But that was just a dream
    That was just a dream

    That's me in the corner
    That's me in the spotlight
    Losing my religion
    Trying to keep a view
    And I don't know if I can do it
    Oh no, I've said too much
    I haven't said enough

    I thought that I heard you laughing
    I thought that I heard you sing
    I think I thought I saw you try

    But that was just a dream
    Try, cry, why try
    That was just a dream
    Just a dream
    Just a dream, dream
     
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  2. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    surely something by cheryl crow would have been better? ;)
     
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  3. canary_max

    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    like it
    a bit gutted about this though. surely it's a matter of time now before he admits it himself
     
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  4. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    gut feeling on this is that he will never admit it.
     
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    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    well if that would to happen he can clearly live with his guilty conscience then supers. must be all the $'ms of sponsorships he has had that makes it easier
     
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    ilovedelia Well-Known Member

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    To think I went to the T d F to watch him race........... yet another CHEATING C**T!
     
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  7. canary_max

    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    they were all cheating in that era ILD. The document states that in the 7 years Lance won the tour, pretty much ALL of the other cyclists who were on the podium in those races are either banned or have suspicions against them.
    Take the titles away from Lance, but you can't give it to the one that finished 2nd or 3rd as they are cheating ****s as well.
     
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    King_of_Portman_Rd Well-Known Member
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    Call me ignorant, Naive, blind (and all the rest) but I still don't believe he cheated. He has never failed a drugs test and for me that is the part of the story that I take notice of the most. admittedly I am probably the only one who has this view and can accept everyone's opinions but I'm still burying my head and holding him up as a hero of mine (until he is proven to be a cheat of course)
     
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    ilovedelia Well-Known Member

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    That is all very sad Max, I love the Tour de France and cycling in general, I actually feel a bit let down!!
     
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  10. ncfcwonky

    ncfcwonky New Member

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    Not a huge fan of the Tour de France (last time I watched it I had a seizure) but I'm a fan of cycling and all this cheating makes some of them look worse than footballers!
     
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  11. redruthyella

    redruthyella Active Member

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    I did the New York Marathon in 2006, during his sabbatical from cycling and I chased around the start areas just to get a glimpse of the man, at that time, to me up with the Redgraves, De La Hoyas and Woods of this world. He broke 3 hours at his first attempt and he went up yet another step on Jacob's Ladder. I was so delighted I had run in the same race as one of the greats.
    There had been whispers about him but we all knew cycling was tainted. But not this guy surely?
    He made his comeback and then the whispers got louder to conversation level. Then ex team mates said it was true and then the Livestrong products I had were tainted and I just couldn't believe that the man who I thought was one in a million was nothing better than Chambers, Johnson and even Cronje.
    Who can you trust? Sport has become such an important part of peoples lives and yet so many of the people involved in it, treat with disdain.
    Stuff him, stuff Terry, stuff Suarez, stuff Barton, stuff Ferguson, stuff Pulis, stuff Cricket umpires.
     
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    redruthyella Active Member

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    Lance Armstrong is a legend, says Team Sky's Alex Dowsett.

    No he isn't. He's a bellend
     
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  13. Tony_Munky_Canary

    Tony_Munky_Canary Well-Known Member

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    Er, sorry to have to say this but I do believe you are being incredibly ignorant, naive and blind if you truly believe there is nothing in this. I listened to an interview from one of his former team-mates on the radio last night and he told of the lengths they went to in order to avoid testing positive - as extreme as having complete blood transfusions in the middle of the TdF! It's shocking, but in no way does it surprise me in the slightest. It has to be up there with Hanse Cronje in terms of scandal, except I believe the cricketer's motives were different and under more pressure from outside influences than Armstrong's who was surely only out for personal gain.

    Next you'll be telling us Jimmy Savile was a lovely old man who has just been mis-understood (he wasn't by the way, he was a vile old ****, just in case you weren't 100% sure).

    Choose your heroes wisely my friend <ok>
     
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    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    i'm waiting for the quotes to come from david millar and bradley wiggins. could be tasty.
    sean yates has said something, probably difficult for him as he was a rider in the 90s and part of that era - i don't know if he was clean or not.

    what really gets me is forcing team members to do it as well who were clean! and then their performances are no better when they were on EPO (there was an extract from christian vandevelde transcript last night), also dissapointed by george hincape, but then he was under massive pressure from Lance to do it you'd have thought.
     
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    The Jimmy Saville case is something that urks me. I fully agree he was a a dirty and vindictive old man with some horrible atrocities in his past but for me this all coming to light after his death is a bit hard on his family (I accept it's been hard on all his victims and their families..) But it seems that now he is dead and can't defend himself they are coming out of the woodwork. If they didn't bring it up at the time, Why should they?? (Yes that may be a bit cold... and some had already filed complaints etc. but the level of rug sweepers to suddenly appear does seem a little odd to me)

    But in response to Lance, I am still clinging on to the glimmer of hope that is fading rapidly that he isn't all bad, as he is a Cancer survivor I have the utmost respect for him and until it is categorically proven (Which I'm sure it will be soon) I will cling to that faint hope...
     
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  16. canarie-chippy

    canarie-chippy Well-Known Member

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    Susan Boyle was the first to jump to Jimmy Savilles defence saying
    "i was on jim'll fix it when i was 13 and he never touched me?"
     
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    Before the last few weeks (months?) whispers, and the recent support, Armstrong has always seemed a figure capable of inspiring anyone, superhuman (well, now literally it seems) fitness, determination and being able to come back from cancer in the way he did (granted that you can't really take away from him), is a list of qualities few possess. The fact he took drugs was bad, as mentioned by others, it's the coercing of others that really gets me.

    He nearly got away with it, and whilst him memory will be tarnished, I'm sure the very healthy bank account will massage any pain he feels on that front. If it is proven properly, I'd love to see one of him sponsors sue him for mis-representating himself and defiling their image. Also, who now goes down as the 'winner' of the tours he won? The number of guys found guilty/admitting it, does the one clean guy down in 30th place or whatever get awarded it? I feel he should be!

    Also liked a comment on the BBC Sport website about it. They've been calling it ""the most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping programme that sport has ever seen" to which somebody commented: "Yeah, but just how sophisticated and successful were the programs we haven't seen?"
     
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  18. DHCanary

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    To answer my own question:

     
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  19. canary_max

    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    Dh see my comment yesterday at 11:36, ok there was one clean guy
     
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  20. zogean_king

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    I think that all cyclists should be given a mandatory cocktail of drugs. So much so that any more of any kind of drugs kills them. That way no-one can cheat and they will all be on a level playing field.
     
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