Chaps. If you haven’t seen this movie, i’d Strongly suggest you do. Oldman gives the performance of his career. Utterly spell binding.
I will watch it. Gary Oldman is a good actor but a bit over-rated at times for my liking. He is favourite to win best actor at the oscars though so I'm expecting a good performance in this.
Can I ask, because I've never conclusively determined this, but was Churchill a ****? Some of his policies, some of the things he is quoted as saying, are abhorrant. Was he just a slightly more eloquent Trump? Also, I personally have issues with celebrating his accomplishments, when it's the volunteers who gave everything that deserve the respect, not the fat posho dictating from the safe side of the channel. Thoughts?
I read a book on his pontifications and he came across as what i can only describe as a noble tosser. Appeared to have a misguided care for the plight of Britain but displayed xenophobia and disgust when talking of his travels. To be fair though he reminded me of most people from that time when you hold them up to modern day standards. At the age of 19 he predicted he'd lead the country to war. Pretty weird that like.
You would all be goose stepping if it wasn’t for Winston. Bend the knee to the great one. He has his faults but he led us to victory in our time of need. Watch the film chaps. Then drop the knee. It shows him warts and all.
Churchill was a **** apparently. That being said - His ****ish ways saved this country. It took a **** to rouse the nation and instill patriotism to defeat one of the most evil regimes in history. I would take that over the damn squib that tried appease Hitler in the first place.
Exactly. I thought Chamberlain was a rich **** obsessed with appeasement. I now know he was all of that, and also a manipulating **** who genuinely loved Adolf’s ideology.
Appeasement is one of our greatest travesties in recent history. Hitler was not ready for war and if we had stood up to him in 1936-38 history may have been different.
Agreed. This is my universe mate. Appeasement didn’t stop in the 30’s though either. The **** who sees evil and does **** all is as bad as an appeaser in my view. I feel very strongly about that ****.
So where does that leave you with North Korea and Iran, do we sort them out now or wait. The comparison with chamberlains appeasement and results are frightening. I would take out Korea now and set an example to Iran who could end up a bigger danger.I am too old to fight and lives would be lost though so feel bad knowing this
I’m not the one with the answers but lots of European Leaders in 1939-40 tried to negotiate with a nut job and got sticked up. Stalin thought he had a great pact with Hitler (part of this was appeasement) until he got ****ed over too. The fact is you cannot reason with nut job dictators. The world is in a mess. We have a dictator in waiting across the pond rattling his sabre and that NK nut job rattling his tooth pick. The Chinese ain’t fans of Trump.. but are growing more wary of the tooth pic rattler. I’ve got no cans left now. I blame Pardew And I know I’m talking beyond my remit peace oot.
It's just stalemate with them because they would wade into South Korea if anyone attacked them. If they attacked any other country they know they'd get pummelled by the US and the Kim dynasty would come to an end.
Great war leader. Typical Tory **** rest of the time. But the first is all that matters given the consequences of failure.
Hitler was initially bluffing. He knew that the Western powers [UK, France, US] were stronger militarily and took advantage of their desire to avoid war. The US especially did not want war. He built up the armed forces in contravention of Versailles and couldn't believe that no-one stopped him. As a result, he kept pushing for more. First the Sudetenland, a test of resolve and then Poland. If we had been foreceful circa 1936 then things may have been different. Churchill was needed to bring a strong war leadership. Appeasement failed and the country needed someone to tell Hitler to **** off. The response to the Blitz and the Battle of Britain told Hitler that we weren't taking any of his crap. It not only galvanized the people of this country, but gave hope to the people of Europe.
