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Danny Murphy.

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by KingPepeReina., May 11, 2011.

  1. KingPepeReina.

    KingPepeReina. Active Member

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    Danny Murphy has come out with the most idiotic statement ever.''Liverpool are playing well because they aren't under any pressure''.
    Even when he was a Liverpool player when he opened his mouth I wished he would shut up,when he thought he was saying the right things....he wasn't.
    There is pressure on Liverpool players 24/7.they are scrutinised by the media,fans etc.
    However he's right in one sense,the reason why Liverpool aren't playing under any pressure is because Kenny isn't putting them under any pressure.
    Look at Arsene Wenger at Arsenal,Carlo Ancellotti at Chelsea,Roberto Mancini at Man City and Harry Redknapp at Spurs.They are all nervous looking,and guess what...that transmits itself to the players.It happened last season under Rafa with Liverpool,Rafa was nervous and that transmitted itself to the players.
    I made this point before that if you are afraid to make a mistake...you will make a mistake.As what happened with Spurs last night.Spurs played like rabbits in front of head-lights due to the nervous demeanour of their manager.
    Contrast that to Kenny who looks like he's sitting on a deckchair instead of a dug-out.
    I believe in trust.If players recognise that the manager doesn't trust them due to his nervous demeanour,they themselves get nervous.Kenny trusts his players.They feed off that.His confidence in them,gives them confidence.
    You build players up before kick-off,you don't frighten the living day-lights out of them.If you see them do something that isn't right,call them over and whisper in their ear and give them a snippet of advice,and if they get lippey,ask them to show you their medals and say do you want to see mine.Thats what Kenny does.However most of the players say how high when he says jump.
     
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  2. suarezlfc

    suarezlfc Active Member

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    So, do you agree with Murphy or not?
     
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  3. KingPepeReina.

    KingPepeReina. Active Member

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    Mostly no.
    The way he said it was like saying that the form won't be as good if Liverpool are under pressure.Now thats a load of bullshit.
    The only person that can put pressure on players themselves is the manager.I doubt it if he will put them under pressure.They don't read what the journalists say.They ignore all that.
     
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  4. Ze

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    I really don't understand why people are saying we're not under pressure.

    Are we going for the Europa league or not? Do we have to win all our games to get the Europa league? Yes. That's more pressure than 13/20 of the Premier league.
     
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  5. suarezlfc

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    The only teams under pressure I think are those whose positions aren't certain yet and still have something to play for. So that's us, Spurs, and the bottom 5.
     
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  6. KingPepeReina.

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    My point is what the **** is he on about?
    However I stand by my point that the players themselves don't look like they are under any pressure is because Kenny unlike the other managers I mentioned isn't putting them under any.
     
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    I think that's the reality of it. They're playing 'like' they're under no pressure, which is what the best teams are able to do.
     
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  8. King_Kenny

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    I understand where he's coming from but we'll be under a bit of pressure this weekend to tie up 5th place so we'll see what happens.

    We're definitely not as bad as Arsenal when it comes to pressure though!
     
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  9. Chris.

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    Every team in the league is under pressure. Some more than others. In reference to Danny's comments, I do disagree with him. Now we have started winning under King Kenny, I feel there is maybe a bit more pressure to beat the so called 'Lesser teams'. We are pushing to finish 5th and therefore get Europa League football and I think there is pressure because we are ahead of Spurs and are expected to finish 5th now because of our excellent run of late.
     
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  10. Lucaaas

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    Danny Murphy is the most overrated player in Liverpool's history. I don't see why Gerrard is saying we should've kept him for a couple more years, is he forgetting Murphy never liked foreign coaches and players which meant he would've been starting unneccessary cliques within the squad and we most likely would never have won the cup in 05' if Murphy was still here. Plus he was replaced by Alonso, no more needed there.
     
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  11. KingPepeReina.

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    To me it sounds like a hidden put-down to some degree.
    As much to say ''Will you play like this if you are under pressure?''
    I have already pointed out why the players are not playing as if they are under pressure.They may be under pressure,Kenny may be under pressure.But neither he or the players look like they are under any pressure.Now thats good management.
    Compare that to Arsenal under Wenger,Chelsea under Ancellotti,City under Mancini,and Spurs under Redknapp,they are playing like they are scared stiff.Its transmitted by the managers.
    I hate to have to bring Man United up again.And I will probably get roasted for it.But Ferguson is not transmitting nerves into his players,he's not putting them under pressure.They were under pressure last sunday,but neither Ferguson or United looked like they were under pressure.
     
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    If Liverpool is to be taken seriously as a top team, the club and its supporters must have high expectations. Anything less than 4th and Liverpool should have been under pressure to bounce back.

    If Murphy is correct and Liverpool weren't under pressure, then the club has expectations of being in the relegation zone. Danny Murphy <doh>
     
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    My word a logic post from Lorca!

    I like Murphy and from what other ex players say he a full on red. I'm surprised he said this though. Are you sure this wasn't just a flippant comment or a comment taken out of context?
     
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    Maybe he just meant, quite simply, they're not under pressure, without any reference or insinuation besides that. While there certainly is pressure, i can understand what he means. It goes back to this idea about this season being a 'write off'. We'd like 5th, but if we don't get it (I think we will), we won't complain too much considering we could have only hoped for a top half finish 5 months ago.
     
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    Isn't his point that, after the first half of the season, no one really expected you to be doing as well as you are now? If you don't get fifth, it's not like everyone's going to turn around and go "Liverpool threw it away". They're going to turn around and say "Well, after the first half of the season, they didn't stand much chance of it anyway". There's no real pressure because, even if you lose your remaining games, no one is going to say your team has failed after the situation you were in before Xmas.
     
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  16. Ze

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    I see what you mean, but it looks as if Danny Murphy is just looking at a Neutral's perspective. Do you honestly think there is no pressure on the players themselves? When they know what's expected of themselves now, there's even more pressure on them for 5th than say Spurs who don't even want Europa league.
     
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  17. KingPepeReina.

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    I disagree with that.
    Its been said over and over again by not just Dannt Murphy that Liverpool are doing well because they aren't under any pressure.They are under pressure,from fans the media etc etc.
    The one person they are not under pressure from is Kenny.He's not putting his players under pressure.Unlike the managers I mentioned in my article and like what Rafa did to the players last season.
    He is trying to make out that the results won't be as good when the pressure kicks off next season.My opinion that that is a load of bollox.
    Kenny will carry on and do what all good managers do and that is transmit positive vibes to the players.He won't put them under any pressure.They are under enough as I said as it is.
     
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  18. Ze

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    I'm not saying Kenny is putting them under pressure, I'm saying the players know what is expected of them. You don't play crap when you're being judged by a club legend. It's simply the pressure of playing under a club legend.
     
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  19. KingPepeReina.

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    You're still not getting it.
    The bit he's left out is ''Wait until the players ARE under pressure''.They are already under pressure.
    But its not showing,and my point is the one that is not putting them under pressure is the manager.Look at it from another perspective.There were 3 teams going for the title,and under intense pressure.Which one is playing like they are under no pressure even though they were under pressure?The one that is top.Why are they playing like they aren't under pressure?Their manager is not putting them under pressure.
     
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    Sorry Danny, This is our last dance, This is ourselves, Under pressure, Under pressure.....Pressure
     
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