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Daily Thread - Thursday 20th June - Royal Ascot

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Black Caviar, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    3.05 Riposte 11/1
    3.45 Estimate 6/1
    4.25 Cape Peron 7/1 (on at 9s)
    5.00 Elkaayed 8/1 NAP (on at 10s)

    Good luck at the half way stage lads, been a tough gig this year.
     
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  2. OddDog

    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    All about Rite Of Passage for me tomorrow - large win bet @ 6/1
     
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  3. tward07

    tward07 Well-Known Member

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    Got 2 bets on so far and they are Estimate & Maputo. Maputo could be anything really, aslong as it settles at the start the 11/1 looks massive
     
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  4. GGW

    GGW Well-Known Member

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    Kyllachy Rise is way overpriced in the Britannia (4.25). Way overpriced. Don't be put off by jockey booking, Hughesie can't make the weight on this one. Cracking e/w chances.
     
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  5. beatenbyashorthead

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    TIMES UP for me in the Gold cup .
    Big bet :D
     
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  6. ROTO

    ROTO Well-Known Member

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    Good luck but don't see it myself. Would be surprised if something wasn't good enough to beat him.
     
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  7. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    Riposte 9/1
    Simenon 7/1
    So Beloved 16/1
    Van der neer 8/1
    Blue Wave 22/1

    Lucky 31 EW
     
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  8. GGW

    GGW Well-Known Member

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    EXCELLENT RESULT NAP 14/1

    Ascot 5.35

    Really, really taken with how this Godolphin charge won LTO and think there's a lot more to come. Very hopeful.



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    3.45 - High Jinx 12/1
    Very progressive and looks set to relish every yard of the 2 and a half mile trip.

    5.00 - Remote 3/1
    Will take all the beating. On the face of it his last run looks ridiculous.
     
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  9. tward07

    tward07 Well-Known Member

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    Yesterdays Ew Heinz returned half the stake back with 2 wins and a 4th @ 20/1

    Today im going with:

    Coulsty @ 11/2
    Winsili @ 9/2
    Estimate @ 6/1
    Maputo @ 11/1
    Elkaayed @ 8/1
    Bold Sniper @ 5/1

    Win Heinz this time
     
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  10. ChelseaCOE2012

    ChelseaCOE2012 Well-Known Member

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    Green Door in the first @ Ascot, 10/1. You know the drill lads
     
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  11. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    BRITANNIA STAKES Timeform Ratings

    BRITANNIA STAKES.JPG
     
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  12. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    That'll do for me:

    127 p CAPE PERON HIF 9/2
    126 P WENTWORTH (IRE) HIF 7/1
     
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  13. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    You are still standing? You were not one of the mugs that piled on Camelot just because O’Brien won the opener? You avoided the bookies benefit handicaps? So now you know the formula...

    The weather could be a big factor if too much rain shows up so a waiting brief might be wise.

    According to Wesley Ward, his best chance of the week is No Nay Never in the Day three opener, the Norfolk Stakes. Expect it to hit the gate and go and expect it to be amongst the favourites as it won its only race on turf. So will it be showing the home team a clean pair of hooves? Aidan O’Brien does not have a great record in this but Coach House arguably has the best form in the race, a listed win at The Curragh. The Hannon two year old factory only fields two: Coulsty (a five-length debut winner with Richard Hughes aboard) and Legend Rising (a winner over six furlongs with Ryan Moore up). Neither of them has form that looks the part but it is hard to ignore the stable. Will Ollie Stevens bring up a two year old double with Green Door, a well-backed winner at the Guineas meeting? Will Eccleston manage to end Richard Fahey’s run of seconditis? This looks like a watching brief unless you are in the know.

    The Ribblesdale is a race that should come with a warning: this is frequently a graveyard for horses looking for Oaks compensation. So The Lark and Gertrude Versed might be up against it. Just Pretending comes here off a good third in the Irish 1000 Guineas but it is a big step up in trip. Indigo Lady and Hollowina both bypassed Epsom after being well beaten in the Musidora and come here fresh, but so does Swettenham winner Winsili, who looks like the one that may give Tommy Stack’s facile Navan winner Alive Alive Oh the most to do.

    I thought that the handicaps should be avoided like the plague and what happens? The Gold Cup turns up a huge field of closely matched horses. The state of the ground may be critical in solving this one and it is almost impossible to equate the visitors from the continent as the German form is a complete unknown and the race will not be run like any of the French races that need to be assessed. Will it be hats off to The Queen? Ask Sir Michael Stoute, not me!

    No wonder one of the bookies is offering to pay six places on the Britannia. Several of the top trainers have multiple entries and there is no way to really know how this is going to be run and the effect of the draw. Walk away.

    The Tercentenary gives punters small enough numbers that they might have confidence in finding the winner. Derby also-ran Chopin is not the only visitor from Germany whilst Prix Du Jockey Club also-ran Shikarpour is the only French visitor and they represent the best form on offer. Amongst the others, Dante third Indian Chief, fifth Windhoek and sixth Secret Number skipped Epsom and come here fresh but with question marks. Are Elkaayed or Remote that lightly-raced improver that we are looking for? Will beaten Irish Guineas favourite Van Der Neer stay? If there was definitely going to be substantial rain, Alain de Royer-Dupre’s raider Shikarpour would be the one as Intello was in a class of his own when The Aga Khan’s colt was five lengths behind him.

    Slightly more manageable numbers than the Britannia, but the King George V handicap could go any one of a dozen ways; however, the statistics suggest that Mark Johnson’s runners represent the best chance of finding the winner given his thirty six percent strike rate in the race.
     
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  14. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    14:30 - Coulsty 13/2 - 1 point ew
    15:05 - Riposte 11/1 - 1 point ew
    15:45 - Estimate 6/1 - 1 point ew
    16:25 - Wentworth 9/2 and Cape Peron 7/1 - both 1 point win
    17:00 - Chopin 11/2 1 point ew
    17:35 - Bold Sniper 11/2 - 10 points ew
     
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  15. beatenbyashorthead

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    Going on the owners confidence ,it's infectious "you'd be crazy not to back it " were his words . Going to take a chance in what looks an open renewal this year .
     
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  16. heisenburg

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    Im with GGW High Jinx to give Glee his 1st Group 1 win

    stay frosty
     
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  17. Reebok

    Reebok YTS Mod Staff Member

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    I've been a wild rover for many a year
    And I spent all me money on whisky and beer
    But now I'm returning with gold in great store
    Never to be the wild rover no more

    And its No Nay Never - no nay never no more
    will I be the wild rover - Nay Never No More.

    Come on the Yankee raider!!
     
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  18. LG

    LG Well-Known Member

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    Am off to Ascot today so will be following you clever people and (hopefully) taking all the credit!
     
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  19. NassauBoard

    NassauBoard Well-Known Member

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    I concur. Hope rain stays away
     
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  20. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    A system is beginning to emerge from my scientific analysis of recent RA trends - to whit, back the Ballydoyle runner in the first. Coach House is best priced at 3/1 and you can't get that on the exchanges, always a reliable sign of confidence.

    After that it's pretty much guess work. The Ribblesdale serves, as always, only to illustrate how impossible it is to predict the behaviour of the female of any species. A 2m4f flat race is not my idea of the highlight of the Pattern, but I gather the Gold Cup is one of the oldest races in the season and as I'm a lover of tradition I'm not going to knock it. However, it's a tradition that I never back the winner unless he's called Yeats, and I don't think he's running this year.

    I'll probably spend a completely unproductive hour poring over the Brittania and with any luck I may even unearth the 6th horse home. Or I may just back You Da One in the hope that a victory for Andrew Balding's gelding might persuade Michael Bell that he should have put Hayley on The Lark.

    Number One London should win the last. Pretty much a certainty to at least place off a mark of 82 imo.
     
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