Iv'e watched the Brana grapple a few times , here's my thoughts. The grab around the neck lasted all of a second before he slid his arms down to the chest .He was clearly trying to pull the player away at that stage. McCarthy then realises what's happening, turns and starts to resist. Brana lowers his head minimally and for a very short time, to get a better purchase. It's then pretty much over. Dumb for sure. Violent ? Absolutely not. A head butt ?? Absolutely ridiculous claim. A bite as the Mail suggests ??? That's surely defamatory and can be pursued by the Club in the courts. The Mail then goes on to suggest a three match ban is appropriate. The FA appears to have ruled this out, but charged both Clubs under their version of "failing to control their players". What are the Clubs supposed to do, have a batallion of security guards run up and down the sideline ready to intervene if one player makes contact with another?? Surely charges should be against the players ,not the Clubs ? The Daily Mails' response simply confirms Joses' contention that there is a conspiracy or at least a media push against Chelsea, in an attempt to have them disadvantaged by FA bans. And it is not subtle.
Ref was looking right at the incident, saw no problem, case over. Jose sulking and claiming a press conspiracy was a silly thing to do, they now know he is rattled and will push the agenda *walking out of the interview didn`t help)
Whilst I dont buy the whole "conspiracy" thing, I could not agree more with the sentence I have bolded. I have never understood why clubs get blamed when stupid things like this happen. It really was a nothing incident.....no one was hurt, no one swung a punch, just a few heated words between players. I have seen heavier rows in my office boardroom. But the sport is becoming total pussy now, would this even have been reported 20 years ago? If there is any kind of conspiracy, its purely media based (I dont count the BBC or Sky, I mean the rags) , no FA involvement, and the conspiracy is that the media will keep pushing Jose's buttons purely so he reacts and they have bullshit to put in print.
The picture is framed to look damnbing, the moving sequence (video) shows the truth. Nothing of an incident Jose is not holding up too well under pressure (was the same at Madrid), he should have just said "yes, i will watch the replay and if i think they did something wrong i willl punish them" then after he had time to watch the vid, laugh and say "no problem".
It is all posturing and drama and mind games, you've fallen for it. Jose has got you all taking about him, while the players focus on winning the league
That is his MO. Thousands of guy screaming "He's lost it", then come May he has a Premier league winners medal round his neck saying "I aint lost **** bitch"
I am all for the conspiracy!! How is Milner handling on goal line - not Penalty & red card, when City were rattled & over run by Stoke? We didn't get a penalty in the same minute at the Bridge. There you see - refs in both matches were so biased towards City - that few minutes could have made 6 pts difference. Eventually they made 3 pts difference to the title race. MOTD - were talking that as definite penalty. But no one mentioned that as RED for Milner - who was key for City to get 3 pts. How is that goal line handling of ball is not RED? Refs, Media everyone against us. Simples!!
Not quite sure what the irony is Utdinred? I am not sure that Jose is trying to deflect the scrummage from the players this time, I think he was pretty pissed off that so much was made of it , and just got the hump. After the Costa suspension, the idea of losing Ivan as well because of TV commentators and newspaper scribes sticking their two bobs worth in , Jose was not a happy chappy. Still think he would be better off just laughing at them rather than getting the hump.
But everyone is having a meltdown. Insecure bunch, Not606 posters, like to point and laugh at everyone and insist they are having a meltdown. The irony is that United fans are claming Jose cannot handle the pressure, after LvG's little outburst the other day. For the record, I don't think LvG was having a breakdown either, just that foreigners sometimes dont get that in order to make something go away, just ignore it. If you speak out about these transgressions (like Sam talking ****, or media pursuing chelsea playera) then it just gives the media further excuses to put the **** in print and keep the story alive. The English media is like no other, when they smell blood......****ing parasites
I thought McCarthy was about to launch into the Ref. What Brana did was all about threat, but only because McCarthy was having a spitting fit. The Ref was probably glad Brana had a good grip. In fact I'm sure he did as he was looking straight at McCarthy and Brana at the time.
unfortunately the majority of Chelsea fans believe his campaign comments, it's all you read from chelsea fans on social media rofl Also, Jose does it cos he is an awful loser, the sort to blame the controller if he gets beat at fifa
Dunno what wonderland you chelsea fans live in, putting your arm round someone's neck to 'restrain' them, even only for a second is still violent conduct and provocation, did you all bang your heads or something? Yes it was not much at all but you know too well, keep your hands to yourself or you risk red and or a ban, Ivan will be lucky to escape action but only cos the ref reported it.
Unfortunately, in this pussy ass day and age it is. And even worse, a subsection of fans will cry about it like the guy who was "restrained" is their brother. He doesn't even play on the team you support ffs!! Why do you give a ****, Sisu? It wouldn't have surprised me one inkling if Ivan had been sent off, because thats the sport these days, played by ***gots, governed by ***gots and for the majority, watched by ***gots. 21st Century football ladies and gents..... (not that I dont love it )
I have put my paws around necks more than once to restrain people, because when they are seeing red they don't respond to a gentle word or slight tug of the shirt. Anyone who thinks this is always an excuse to wreck violence needs serious social re-integration. It does all depend on where you are and who you do it to. Look at the two players immediately after the incident, is there real animosity then? The police are duty bound to prosecute any breach of law they are aware of. Has anyone charged anyone? I guess you have to realise these are two people not only two opposing players. When you have that context you can begin to see what is going on. There is never really a line in the sand yet we have to draw them to have some sort of base to work from. A society becomes successful when everyone in it knows the how thick the line becomes depending on where it is drawn. The law though has to have clear demarcation. People though tend to be mischievous or just plain ignorant and insist on black and white and make themselves pariahs and public idiots.
Did McCarthy even react any worse than some of the Chelsea players though? He was upset but hardly seeing red, you'll see far angrier reactions Chelsea players and others when decisions don't go their way. What Ivanovic did in grabbing him was totally OTT. McCarthy wasn't even resisting being walked away so why Ivanovic 1) held onto him for so long and 2) pushed his head in is hard to justify. Personally I think he's trying to wind up McCarthy into doing something stupid, just like Costa's "accidental" stamps and Cahill kick and stamping on Kane. Before the start of the season it would've been a straight red and/or a ban depending on whether or not the ref saw it. It doesn't matter how much contact you make, you can't deliberately slap, punch, kick or push your head into an opponent without facing further punishment for violent conduct(unless you get lucky and the ref's an idiot). Well that was the case but I can already think of Wilshere butting Fellaini, Mason pushing his head into Benteke and now Ivanovic doing the same this season and not one of them was punished. As ever the referee's association has muddied the water for themselves and made it impossible for anyone to know what counts as consistency anymore. We all know what Mourinho was doing though, he brought up Van Persie's elbow before the game even though he knows full well why he wasn't banned like Costa was and after he called the shots on the Ivanovic one, a mere question on the subject being enough for him to threaten to abandon the press conferenc. It's embarrassing how easily intimidated the media are with managers like Fergie and Jose.
Just wondering with all this talk of aggression, nobody seems at all bothered about Nigel Pearson pinning a player to the ground by his tthroat. Jose would have had the book thrown at him if he did that.
