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Curtis : The Seven Game Stint ..The Verdict

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by seabreeze, Jan 18, 2016.

  1. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Took over the team in a complete shambles . The seven teams he faced ..3rd , 5th , 6th ,8th, 12th ,13th and 19th. Got the whole squad playing , and playing better.
    Eight points in seven games , over a season would be forty four points
    Four clean sheets in seven games .
    Never really got a break , both Manchester teams scored late and Sunderland ....grrr, and those are his losses .
    Guided us through the Christmas schedule while the hierarchy ran around in panic .
    Well done Coach Curtis , I hope Guidolin can keep up the pace , he has big shoes to fill
     
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  2. Terror ball

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    Curt has done a bloody good job under difficult circumstances.

    The way he has conducted himself has made me proud that he's a Jack.
     
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    He can hold his head up. .......as always
     
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    During his stint he got us 8 points. Curtis done in 7 games what took Monk his last 12. And that was including both Man city and Man U away!
    He's steadied the ship nicely for us and has given our new manager a good platform to build from.
    People say we need a couple of key signings in this window, but I would happily settle for just a striker.
    There are 16 games left to play, 5 wins imo should be enough to keep us up. And we've still got Norwich and Villa to play at home. A result at Everton would be huge.
     
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    daimungeezer Well-Known Member

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    Well said guys :emoticon-0137-clapp

    If ever there was a potential turning point, then beating Watford was it. A massive three points, played well under immense pressure and showed the new manager, clapping from the stands, that there's heart and quality here. Although in hindsight, when we're mid table at the end of the season :grin:, I'll hopefully be saying the turning point was Curt taking charge!
     
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    Anybody, and I mean anybody who says a bad word against Curt is not a jack. Agree with all the posts above, especially after last night. <applause>
     
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    ...there is the small matter of what he got up to between 1986 and 1989 but I'm willing to forgive even that for all he's done for us!!!!
     
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  8. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    One only has to consider this , look what was handed to Curtis with a fast and furious , tough teams schedule with the team in tatters and look what he hands to Guidolin .
    Curtis was handed distraught players , Guidolin is handed a team .
    And daimungeezer , the repercussions of anything less than a win for this game , well , I don't even want to think about it .
     
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  9. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    While a lot might disagree , putting Curtis in charge was not a risk, in order for there to be a risk there has to be an option. No manager wanted to risk their reputation on our situation .
    However , putting Guidolin in charge is a risk with only 16 games remaining and there was an option , leave well enough alone with Curtis .
    The club was stabilized , astonishingly, under Curtis .Confidence was rebuilt , our form improved and results started to appear even with bad breaks and calls going against us .
    Jenkins knew the Watford game was a fork in the road and he blinked with his confidence in Curtis and hired Guidolin prior to the Watford game .
    Might work out , might not but Jenkins is risking the confidence within the players that Curtis built.One only has to look at player comments about how pleased they were working under Curtis and Adams to know how inspired they were .
    Hiring Guidolin makes it 3 managers the players have had to follow in less than 6 weeks , whether that's good or bad , it's ugly .
     
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  10. Kifflom!

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    I'm not so sure. Curtis, as well as he's done in stabilising this Club - and kudos for that - has shown some tactical naivety and an unwillingness to take risks by bringing on subs who may change a game early enough. Understandable, because being a number 2 you never have to take those decisions yourself. The Board have spotted this and have moved to get a guy who loves the way we play (or USED to play) and who has experience in taking those tough decisions. On paper it's a great move and I can't blame the Board one bit. Of course it may not work out but that may have been the case by leaving Curtis in charge. Equal risks I think, but a bold move by the Board, and Curtis should continue to have a huge input.

    Remember, it was the same players praising Monk to the skies as we continued to look clueless and plummeted down the table. They just have to suck it up.
     
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  11. ValleyGraduate12

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    Given his lack of experience as a manager he's done an outstanding job as interim manager. Restored belief and confidence in the squad, improved our passing and ball retention ten fold (granted there's still work on speeding our passing up etc) and has improved our defence.
    Given the mess he was pushed into, I'd give him a 9/10 as he's given Guidolin a far, far better platform to work with, than the one he inherited himself.
     
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  12. seabreeze

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    I think we got a good man in to take the team forward , mostly because he came looking for us ,respects the way we play and has loads of expierence managing and players available in the market . My only concern is the timing of the appointment , like the timing of appointments and sackings over the past few seasons .
    Players trying to absorb 3 diffent managers thoughts and training in 6 weeks must be stressful.
    And speaking of stress , part of the reason Guidolin left his last job was stress , taking over a team in a relegation battle with 16 games left seems a bit..... out of the fire and into the frying pan .
     
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  13. NamJack

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    Stress can be managed though. I know from experience. I read somewhere that Curtis would still be doing media interviews for example, as Guidolin does not speak good English. To be honest, Curts media work has been 10/10 so far so I am more than happy with that. Also he has brought in an assistant today who speaks English so will be the main communicator to the players. What you can't do much about though is the stress involved in watching games. I watched the Watford game standing up in my lounge sh*tting myself from when we scored till the end. It's getting more and more stressful every game. At one point the cameras focused on Guidolin. At least he was showing passion already. Ultimately, how much stress is he really under here. He will be able to pay his bills easily, try his luck in the premier league and hopefully enjoy it and be well rewarded when we stay in the Premier league.
     
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  14. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    He's taken up yoga since his last job so that's gotta help, Plus I think Jenkins might have learned his own lesson in stress and will back off his hands on approach.
     
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    We can only hope so. <laugh>
     
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  16. NamJack

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    The thing about substituting players always does my nut in. Managers always leave it too late. All managers, apart from maybe Mourinio. Over the years watching countless matches (live or on TV, not just the Swans). the game has been crying out for a change. Managers always seem to be reactive though, rather than proactive. It does my head in. If something is not working tactically then bloody change it at half time rather than after 65 or 70 minutes. Why wait to go a goal down and then think for example, oh sh*t lets get Montero on. It happens so often and sometimes the sub only gets a handful of touches in the last 15 minutes as time wasting kicks into play. It is inept management as far as I am concerned. Is it because managers don't want to admit they are wrong with their original selections and to change early would highlight that error in judgement? This is not directed at Curtis by the way, just in general. I would give him maybe 7-8 /10 for his substitutions, but 10/10 for everything else.
     
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  17. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    I really think there is something to what you say about managers not wanting to be preceived as being wrong about original picks that slows them from subbing , probably some sort of human behaviour thing .
    Pure speculation on my part but I think Britton , unknowingly , might have played a part in Jenkins bringing in Monk for Laudrup and Guidolin for Curtis .
    In the Laudrup case , he started Amat in Britton's position against West Ham , and he subbed Rangel for Britton in the the Curtis case .Sunderland scored 3 goals after taking Britton off .I think in both cases , Jenkins wasn't happy , both times when the club and Jenkins were under stress .I know it's kinda of out there , but it's what I believe .
     
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  18. NamJack

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    Considering that Monk and Britton are presumably good mates, there is absolutely zero understanding by me, why Britton was dropped and never given the chance. I would have Leon for an hour in every game if that's all he could last. He really is so outstanding, even now, makes us tick and does 99% of things right. It is almost a sackable offence in itself the treatment of Leon by Monk. What was he thinking? Was it an ego thing, I am now your boss etc. We, or I, kiind of went along with it at the time, thinking that maybe his legs had gone etc.. But as recent games have showed it was bo**ocks.
     
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  19. seabreeze

    seabreeze Well-Known Member

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    Amen ...
     
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    "The" verdict, or just some opinions ?
     
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