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crisis in football?

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  1. atcham jack

    atcham jack Well-Known Member

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    an interesting article on the early morning money program on the radio this morning. apparantly premier clubs are managing to fill 90% of their stands but most are relying on gate and tv money to survive or seek the top 6. in the premier league an average of 68% income is being spent on players wages, with the exception of man city who spent £108 for every £100 received. this is patently unsustainable and explains why so little trickles down to the lower leagues where good housekeeping, attractive football and an expanding fanbase are essential for survival
    small wonder promo to the premiership is worth 90 million, in addition there is a generous parachute fund for those relegated.
    it is high time a set percentage was handed down to the lower leagues. thank goodness for good housekeeping at the greenhous meadow. floreat salopia
     
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    Matster Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I was surprised that so many clubs were only spending 40-60% of gate receipts and tv income on player wages.
     
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  3. tinned hats

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    yeah its pretty sicking, im not to sure i could watch the likes of man city and enjoy the game knowing what thease clowns earn, the big clubs are slowly killing football, and to watch just 4 teams year in year out with any chance of the title is mind numbingly boring, i don't even watch match of the day much now...how times have changed
     
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    All who feel the FL show needs a revamp say AYE! Anyone but Steve Claridge giving 'expert' opinions and who even is Manish Bhasin?Put some investment into it BBC you charmless nerks- us lower league football make the game what is is!(or at least should be) Although Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes isn't too shabby :emoticon-0105-wink:

    In fact, I'm tempted to start a thread about this :p
     
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    atcham jack Well-Known Member

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    68% of income spent on wages is only an average. little wigan who narrowly avoide relegation spent 90% of income on wages. yes the premier league are doing very nicely with an income of 2 billion, but the clubs are all on the edge of bankcrupcy. it is unsustainable to spend more than say 50% of gate and tv on wages. a sense of realism is about to blow premier clubs out of the water. with coalition government cut backs, the cost of food going through the roof, and gas and electricity going up 20% something is about to give big time up in the top deck. tickets and sky deals may suddenly take second place behind a meal on the table.
    thank goodness for well run clubs like the shrews. floreat salopia, floreat sunday lunch
     
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    In the nicest way possible; us Salopians have precioous little to be worrying about. We're very well run and can afford to now and then splash out despite the stadium which didn't come cheap; some clubs can dream of our infrastructure which is almost certainly above League 2 average. Bar some rash decision(s) from a port-drunken Roland (AJ!!!) we're more than safe, and hey, the more of those clubs that tumble down the pyramid the (supposedly) higher we climb! Shrews in PL>> yes please!:emoticon-0109-kiss:
     
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    mmmmmm Me's thinking a lot of people are lounging in their comfy zone around here!
     
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    We need and deserve a loose rein in the summer, when all hope is renewed ...
     
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    i set out to hilight the crisis in the premier league but i also believe problems are rife in all leagues, witness plymouth, still no new owner and not likely to be until mid/end of july. other clubs are/will soon be in trouble as boards take risks with club money for promotion/survival.
    a wind of change is blowing through football, many clubs will feel the draught. steady with the port and the cash rowland, shrews will survive. floreat salopia
     
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  10. tinned hats

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    AJ..most clubs (thankfully not ours so far) are struggling, and yes a wind of change will come. players now are earning a pittance on the lower echelons compered with just a few divisions higher . but the daft thing is the clubs up there in the rafters arnt making any money either..it cant go on!, but this does go back to my original posting, if we are run that well, how come we are still stuck in this godforsaken league and for so long too, when you look at the crowd that was at the stevenage v torquay final its just maddening!...but there again i still find it hard to get to grips by loosing out to a side that we finished 10pts ahead of, and won and drew with, meaning they didnt beat us all season!...but now im starting to rant..so ill shut up!
     
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    tinned hats you are right to hilight the problems, but until things improve i am quite happy to remain a successful L2 club. frankly our performance did not warrant promo last season, and our gates may have left us struggling in a higher league. i suspect our average home attendence was circa 4200. we had a few 9k crowds, but if we are to mount a serious promo challenge town will need 9k gates each home game. we certain ly would not survive in L1 or heaven forbid the championships with gates of 4200. so we say floreat salopia, we can but dream and encourage the chairman, manager, squad and sponsors for one more push, but it will be all for nothing without bums on seats
     
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    another crisis waiting to happen maybe the millers. they are about to loan 5 million from the council towards a new stadium. just how will they service this and other debts with home gates of 3300. are the players playing for nothing. love to be a fly on the wall in the millers boardroom in say 2 years time. i suspect the directors will need 17,21,22,40,45 and 48.
     
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  13. Metashrew

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    "players now are earning a pittance on the lower echelons compered with just a few divisions higher" Tinned hats......be very careful what you say without the facts. There are players at Exeter, who I know, that earn considerably more than junior managers in local productive industry (where the budgets are bigger than ECFC). Most league players in Div 2 (over the age of 22) earn considerably more than the local average wage. Other 'entertainers' such as actors at local theatres earn much less. Footballers may have short working lives....but don't we all these days??

    Rant over! Really looking forward to new season already.

    Why don't we all make predictions and see how many come true?
    e.g. who will be the first poster to slag off GT? Who will be the first ex-player to score against us? how many times will we score more than 3 goals in a game? etc, etc

    My prediction....we will take the most and best fans to away matches (as a proportion of the crowds).
     
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    Matster Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Attendance at town in the statistics section, average is 5875 and lowest is 4343 at home.

    http://www.shrewsburytown.com/page/Attendance/0,,10443~201010443,00.html

    Wages wise as a rough figure first team players in League 2 are on between £1k and £2k (possibly even more nowadays) a week so that is at least £50k a year. So that is a great wage for 10 years of your life.
     
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    Too right about Gulls versus Stevenage. Admittedly it was difficult for both of them but had Salop been there the Blue army would've taken matters into our own hands. Manchester would'nt know what's hit it!<ok>
     
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    PS: I feel we've got a lot of 'closet' fans hanging around the large catchment area(practically all of Shropshire and Powys, where I live) that came out for the Oxford/Torquay games etc. It's just that Town have a dodgy reputation and if we finally get to League 1 we can banish it!
     
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    Matster Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Is that reputation that one week we can play fantastic football and the next one we're sh*te? Let's hope GT can fix that one. League 1 would definitely bring a few more fans our way as there would be 'old school' big clubs to play against.
     
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  18. atcham jack

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    not only is it one week jekyl next week hyde. i had the dubious pleasure of watching a game of differing halves. 1st half home to stockport 2-0 good entertainment, second half town fell asleep. gt's substitutions made no difference. too late even matty h was ineffective. if the second half was indicative of some of towns performances, eg away shots home to accrington, small wonder town remain where they are. no sensible comment can be proffered about next season without knowing the squad and giving them a few games to bed in. we can hope though.
    shrews cannot afford any clocks go back malaise, midwinter malaise or beware the ides of march malaise. gt and the squad must aim for 85 points if they are serious about promo. in that direction i bid them floreat salopia, coys, aab, and ctrb
     
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  19. Metashrew

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    Thanks Matster! Those wage figures are spot on! I know people supervising 10-30 people with a budget of millions who 'only' earn £38,000 per year!! Maybe they are the fools....or is it the football clubs who pay very good money for average journeymen?

    My next prediction: Tom Bradshaw to start less than 60% of Town's matches.
    My next prediction: Nobody will score more than 20 league goals (unless the new mystery signing is is a gem)
    My next prediction: The playoffs again......and we will lose unless they change the badge (thanks aj!!)

    and finally....... Sharps to be player of the season!
     
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    Blimey, that's £500 over 10 years - bunch of overpaid wasters!
     
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