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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by SpursDisciple, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. SpursDisciple

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    Do we have the answer to Chelsea's unlikely run of good fortune to win the CL last year? <whistle>

    Seriously, this could dominate headlines for a while if it is as big as suggested in this story. Are there any rumours about what games were involved?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21319807

     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    Chelsea's 4-1 win over Napoli always looked quite convenient...
     
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  3. It could explain many of the dodgy refereeing decisions that have been made.
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  4. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I hope Atkinson and Foy are both names on that list <grr>
     
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    With Webb as a seperate investigation in his own right?
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    CL games played in England last season

    Group A
    Man City 1 Napoli 1
    Man City 2 Villarreal 1
    Man City 2 Baveria Munich/Bayern Munchen (seriously, pick one...) 0

    Group C
    Man Utd 3 Basel 3
    Man Utd 2 Otelul Galati 0
    Man Utd 2 Benfica 2

    Group E
    Chelsea 2 Bayer Leverkusen 0
    Chelsea 5 Genk 0
    Chelsea 3 Valencia 0

    Group F
    Arsenal 2 Olympiacos 1
    Arsenal 0 Marseilles 0
    Arsenal 2 Borussia Dortmund 1

    Last 16
    Chelsea 4 Napoli 1
    Arsenal 3 Milan 0

    Quarter Finals
    Chelsea 2 Benfica 1

    Semi Finals
    Chelsea 2 Barcelona 2

    So, was it the Napoli match or the Valencia match?
     
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    To be fair to Chelsea, if i had to pick a London game that looked extremely dodgy, it would have been that semi final game against Barca, refereed by that Norwegian clown Tom ssomething or other.
     
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  8. Inda

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    I don't get it.

    These betting fixes are done by betting (laying) against a team winning.

    Chelsea 3 Valencia 0
    Chelsea 4 Napoli 1

    I would have expected Chelsea to win both those home games. I'd be 99% sure the market would have agreed. The odds for them winning would have been extremely short.

    Chelsea's players/criminals/fixers would not have punted on these games. Valencia's and Napoli's might have, but the odds wouldn't have made the risk worthwhile.

    There are no upsets in the above list.

    The idea is to fix the game so that the favourite loses. I don't see that happening with the results above.

    More to come out in the wash, so say.
     
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  9. notsosmartspur

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    I don't think it was any games last season, the beeb article says within the last 3 or 4 years.

    "The fixed Champions League tie in England took place in the "last three or four years";"
     
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    2 things on this.

    1. I mentioned Chelsea in the OP tongue in cheek, it was more to open up the discussion on the story
    2. People don't bet big on who wins, it is about margin. Would you expect a misfiring Chelsea to score 4 against Napoli, I bet the odds would be pretty good.
     
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    Send him to Guantanamo with no trial, we all know he's guilty <whistle>
     
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    Hang on, didn't we cause some upsets in the CL in this period, at home :-/
    Even more worrying, Italians
     
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    The reason I brought up both those games is because Chelsea got the exact result they needed to go through, especially the Napoli game as they lost the first leg 3-1.
     
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    United never made it out of their group last season, what odds on that at the start of the comp! a United betting scam would be far more lucrative worldwide, this obsession with Chelsea is blinkered.
     
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    Yeah, but Rafa fixed it for us by being ****e, Spurm. No corruption necessary.

    The most dodgy game in recent Champions League history was the 7-1 win for Lyon over Dinamo Zagreb in 2011.
    The ref? One Mark Clattenburg.
     
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    We conveniently got a 0-0 vs AC which was the precise result we needed though. Big upset too
     
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    Don't remember any controversial decisions or lack of effort from the Italians, though. Seedorf was absolutely distraught at the end.
     
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  18. Spurm

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    Don't get me wrong, i don't believe it was us, i'm just playing devil's advocate to the "it was chelsea" theories. It could just have easily been us with the information we have.
     
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    Bring in TV replays, at least more than one official would have to be corrupt.
     
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  20. deedub93

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    Are you saying Clattenberg ( Pedro Mendes) had money on a nil nil draw at old traffold a few years back?
     
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