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PS Just for the record I lost my own mother to COPD back in 2006 ... seen that ****er up close and personal and it is not a good way to go ... but this Bastard is way beyond that in the way it is taking down the elderly ...
Sorry to hear that,

My mum is currently in a hospital full of covid-19 patients after her operation and I'm petrified I'm going to lose her.
 
Let me humour HiaG for merely a few seconds, let's say we suddenly believe all his bolloxs and the threats to our freedom...

We've just converted a building to what will be the biggest hospital in the world.

Everyone has weeks if not months off work and will be paid 80% of their normal wage.

Paid to stay at home!

We've got something like a million volunteers come forward.

The enviromentalists will be happy with all airplanes grounded, and cars sitting idle in drive ways.

We will havee more ventilators than we have ever had.

In countries across the world we are seeing people come together as one.

Well for a conspiracy which HiaG is trying to suggest, I see more positives then negatives <whistle>

We've also got extreme anarchist groups telling it's members to obey the state. If that is happening then we really are putting aside our differences!
 
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We've also got extreme anarchist groups telling it's members to obey the state. If that is happening then we really are putting aside our differences!

HiaG's a fooking idiot. I've said all along regarding this lock-down, it's only as good as the people allow it to be - the police force in this country wouldn't standard a chance if our citizens decided to the contrary. That's why I got pissed off with Gove the other day, and why I guess he hasn't taken the podium since. The last thing you want to do is piss off your people, you need them onside, because without them onside, you have no lock-down and everything would descend into anarchy.
 
Current concerns are for my ex-father and mother in-law ... both have underlying health problems, respiratory and he is diabetic ... he should actually hate me because I left his daughter for my now missus of 25 years ... but after my heart op in 2017 he actually came to pick me up from the hospital and drive me home because his grand daughter (my eldest) was so worried about me catching the train home ... what a ****ing bloke ... after my old man, I have more respect for this man than anyone living ... the thought of him and his wife being taken by this ****ing virus makes me boil inside ...
 
HiaG's a fooking idiot. I've said all along regarding this lock-down, it's only as good as the people allow it to be - the police force in this country wouldn't standard a chance if our citizens decided to the contrary. That's why I got pissed off with Gove the other day, and why I guess he hasn't taken the podium since. The last thing you want to do is piss off your people, you need them onside, because without them onside, you have no lock-down and everything would descend into anarchy.

And people are already asking questions and holding the police to account with the new powers they have. They will not be allowed to abuse those powers for long before society would turn. Without bringing politics into it, so just for context, I ****ing hate Nigel Farage. I was very pro-European in that debate (which in my mind is now done and dusted). Anyway, I saw a video of his today where he made some good points about the new powers the police have and how they need to apply them with common sense. I certainly didn't agree with everything he said, but the point is that there are people out there who will soon call the public to respond if we ever looked like turning into a police state. People will put aside political differences if that ever happens, just as they are now in this crisis.
 
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Current concerns are for my ex-father and mother in-law ... both have underlying health problems, respiratory and he is diabetic ... he should actually hate me because I left his daughter for my now missus of 25 years ... but after my heart op in 2017 he actually came to pick me up from the hospital and drive me home because his grand daughter (my eldest) was so worried about me catching the train home ... what a ****ing bloke ... after my old man, I have more respect for this man than anyone living ... the thought of him and his wife being taken by this ****ing virus makes me boil inside ...
I've got a mum and dad in 3 months lockdown thing. The mines ****ed him long ago.
A sister who is a care worker, her hubby has been laid off, and they look after their grandson.
A lifelong best mate who is a paramedic, and at risk at any any given time.

And i'm just doing my own ****...Work, and sleep...

I kinda laughed this **** off at first. Not now.
 
And people are already asking questions and holding the police to account with the new powers they have. They will not be allowed to abuse those powers for long before society would turn. Without bringing politics into it, so just for context, I ****ing hate Nigel Farage. I was very pro-European in that debate (which in my mind is now done and dusted). Anyway, I saw a video of his today where he made some good points about the new powers the police have and how they need to apply them with common sense. I certainly didn't agree with everything he said, but the point is that there are people out there who will soon call the public to respond if we ever looked like turning into a police state. People will put aside political differences if that ever happens, just as they are now in this crisis.

Am I right in thinking these new powers are only in for a limited time, and only for a maximum of two years?
 
I believe so, yes. Not sure about the time limit off the top of my head but there was one.

I must have watched something on it somewhere. I believe they can be rescined at anytime - possibly from within the house, if someone called up on it. Even without that, they can only stay in place for a maximum of two years. Well that's what I'm thinking, whether that is correct or not I don't know.
 
I must have watched something on it somewhere. I believe they can be rescined at anytime - possibly from within the house, if someone called up on it. Even without that, they can only stay in place for a maximum of two years. Well that's what I'm thinking, whether that is correct or not I don't know.

They are in place for 6 months with a review every three weeks

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52053527
 
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Out of respect for you and indeed my own natural cynicism I read the article... my conclusion is that these 12 idiots are seeking some sort of notoriety ... they seem to completely ignore the mounting death toll as if what is happening is nothing out of the ordinary or can somehow be extrapolated over normal influenza casualties ... utter bollocks mate ... Italy has a somewhat unique aged population in terms of family generations sharing accommodation... Italy has never seen anything like this death toll amongst the elderly ... that alone is enough to convince me that this is both unprecedented and extraordinary ...

Having read the last 3 pages this is by far the simplest and hard-hitting argument against everything printed in HIAG's article.

To add to that @Hoddle is a god this quote from Dr Lass: Italy is known for its enormous morbidity in respiratory problems, more than three times any other European country. In the US about 40,000 people die in a regular flu season and so far 40-50 people have died of the coronavirus, most of them in a nursing home in Kirkland, Washington.

In response here is a study titled "Mortality rates for chronic lower respiratory diseases in Italy from 1979 to 2010: An age–period–cohort analysis" which states...
The objectives of this study were to estimate the trends in Chronic lower respiratory disease (CLRD) mortality in Italy, and the specific contributions of age, time period and birth cohort in driving these trends.... the age-standardised rates have been steadily decreasing from 1979 to 2010, passing from 104.3 to 55.4 per 100 000 person-years in men and from 32.2 to 19.6 per 100 000 person-years in women. The average relative annual decrease was −3.6% in men and −2.7% in women. Since the end of the 1990s, the decreasing trend of CLRD mortality has started to level off, in particular in women.

So...I fear Dr Lass is talking out of his arse mate. In addition his claim that only 40-50 people have died of this coronavirus in the U.S, even on the 26th March when this article was printed, was wholly inaccurate and a pretty stupid comment to make considering what stage the infections were at.

The most acclaimed medical expert on there is John Ioannidis who always has this thing about conclusions based on insufficient date, It's a valid point in many cases he's critiqued in the past, and if you read his quotes that appears to be his gripe once again. Fair enough, maybe on the 16th March he felt there wasn't enough data, and at best you can say he's right about that... at best and arguable I might add. But to go from that to then drawing a conclusion this is nothing worse than your average Flu would also be wrong wouldn't it?
 
I've got a mum and dad in 3 months lockdown thing. The mines ****ed him long ago.
A sister who is a care worker, her hubby has been laid off, and they look after their grandson.
A lifelong best mate who is a paramedic, and at risk at any any given time.

And i'm just doing my own ****...Work, and sleep...

I kinda laughed this **** off at first. Not now.

Closer to home, the missus has no spleen and therefore a compromised immune system and the youngest has the same blood condition as her mum, which led to her mum needing a splenectomy ... now the youngest has it so mild that hopefully she will never be impacted but I'm **** scared about her mum if I'm being completely honest ... my life without her would be unimaginable...

I'm technically in the vulnerable category myself after the heart op but am not too worried ... not being Rambo... just going on the fact that I have always been pretty resilient to colds and flu both pre and post op ...

This thing needs to be taken very seriously, it is not "Just like the flu" ... it is a complete game changer...
 
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I've got a mum and dad in 3 months lockdown thing. The mines ****ed him long ago.
A sister who is a care worker, her hubby has been laid off, and they look after their grandson.
A lifelong best mate who is a paramedic, and at risk at any any given time.

And i'm just doing my own ****...Work, and sleep...

I kinda laughed this **** off at first. Not now.
Bloody hell. Next thing we know you will be steering round dogs in the road.
 
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Sorry to hear that Jasper
It must be tough on everyone

Yes . He’s not the only one , I was just highlighting a situation where mental health issues could be a problem . He will be ok in the long term he has a loving family and lots of friends . Others are not so fortunate .
 
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Well done Roy. You’ve cheered me up :emoticon-0150-hands
 
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Is it me or does it come across that Trump just thinks it's one big inconvenient game?

He can’t allow this pandemic to stop his bid for a second term, and as his whole campaign is based on how good the American economy is, having any type of recession will kill off his bid, so he needs the US back to normal as soon as possible. The $2T he sanctioned is for no other reason than to prop up the markets. That coupled with he’s completely unstable mentally!
 
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