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There is no content of substance to respond to. It's a list of quotes lifted without any context and without making a rational point.

Exactly this, not one shred of a link to actual evidence relating to covid-19.

I looked up the first guy. He's an old boy in his 70s who wrote a letter a couple of days ago admitting he didn't know how the figures are calculated or what proportion of cases need hospital treatment.
 
Read it, Tobias.

By all means criticise me. Post quotes from these experts to show me where they are being crackpots, or misinformed, or delusional.

Let us engage in a proper debate about the freedoms that we are throwing away, rather than engage in the propaganda.

I will happily admit to being wrong, if you can point out to me the holes in the arguments posed by these 12 experts.

My feeling is that more and more people are going to be voicing their deep concerns at the fascism that is unfolding before our eyes, on a daily basis. At the very least, listen the questions that these experts are posing, and question yourself, not me, as to whether or not these experts are making even the slightest case that needs to be answered.

Do this for the sake of your children and their children, if you don't want to do it for yourself.

Mate, there have been 180 deaths in the UK in the last 24 hours ... if you are seriously trying to tell me that this is the norm at this time of the year then you need to give your head a serious wobble ...
 
Exactly this, not one shred of a link to actual evidence relating to covid-19.

I looked up the first guy. He's an old boy in his 70s who wrote a letter a couple of days ago admitting he didn't know how the figures are calculated or what proportion of cases need hospital treatment.

It is nothing but a call by the deluded to manipulate the gullible and garner some attention for their own paranoia
 
Two conversations I had today. The first was with my mate who is a GP. He’s going through it but putting a brave face on things. He’s a cynical git who will look like Sid James eventually, this stress has only accelerated that. The other was with a mate whose wife has been seconded to an emergency ICU. He’s ****ting it that she’ll get the virus.

Just a bit of flu though apparently. Might get him some attention. I called him out as a narcissistic bell end years ago.

He's certainly a narcissist in search of his own gratification. He's pretendng to play the contrary role but he's not contrary, I might class myself as that but certainly not him. Examples would be, he never engages in a conversation on the same level, he's always got to be that one extra rung up the ladder. He never shows any compassion when its appropriate to do so, it's constant me, me, me complex, which includes; Grandiose sense of importance, belief that he is special and unique, lack of empathy, arrogance.
 
Why do threads always have to be about you. Constant attention seeking, speak to a doctor ffs.

There were two people on here not long ago talking about compassion, not a word from you but utter tripe as per normal, you self indulgent prick.

I agree with your sentiment but please don't tell him to see a doctor. He might actually do it. Any attention is good attention.

They've got more important things to be doing than wasting time with his delusions
 
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Why do threads always have to be about you. Constant attention seeking, speak to a doctor ffs.

There were two people on here not long ago talking about compassion, not a word from you but utter tripe as per normal, you self indulgent prick.


Stop making this about me. This is about our basis freedoms.

Read the link. Consider what the 12 experts have to say, and make your own mind.

Don't engage me in the discussion. Keep me out of it.

Have the courage to look for yourself and make your own enquiries.

As I said before, if you don't have the courage to do this for yourself, have the courage to do it for your kids and grandkids.

Now is not the time to be a sheep.
 
Stop making this about me. This is about our basis freedoms.

Read the link. Consider what the 12 experts have to say, and make your own mind.

Don't engage me in the discussion. Keep me out of it.

Have the courage to look for yourself and make your own enquiries.

As I said before, if you don't have the courage to do this for yourself, have the courage to do it for your kids and grandkids.

Now is not the time to be a sheep.

I didn't read, go and have a lay down you fooking old fool.
 
The current virus is not the End of Days apocalypse, but, if the resumption of "normal" life in Wuhan results in a second mutation of the virus then the entire planet could be well and truly in the s**t
 
Stop making this about me. This is about our basis freedoms.

Read the link. Consider what the 12 experts have to say, and make your own mind.

Don't engage me in the discussion. Keep me out of it.

Have the courage to look for yourself and make your own enquiries.

As I said before, if you don't have the courage to do this for yourself, have the courage to do it for your kids and grandkids.

Now is not the time to be a sheep.
I have to ask this, did you actually read the link?

If you did then you have no understanding of timescale and what you are seeing with your own eyes today in real time.
If this is meant to be some super wum then it's a massive failure and time you gave up old man.
 
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I urge everyone one of you to read and carefully consider the information given in link, below.

Whether or not you believe what these 12 experts are saying to the World, I strongly believe that it is the responsibility of every free man to consider and question every single aspect of what we are being told about this virus, given that we are being asked by powerful institutions, including our own Government, to give up our fundamental freedoms. If you don't care about your own freedom, please consider the freedom of your children and their children.

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/03/26/12-experts-question-the-covid-19-panic/

Better to be safe than sorry is my base thought without delving into any info whatsoever about this virus...I’m just going by my good ol’ gut instinct here
 
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Stop making this about me. This is about our basis freedoms.

Read the link. Consider what the 12 experts have to say, and make your own mind.

Don't engage me in the discussion. Keep me out of it.

Have the courage to look for yourself and make your own enquiries.

As I said before, if you don't have the courage to do this for yourself, have the courage to do it for your kids and grandkids.

Now is not the time to be a sheep.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30566-3/fulltext

Stop making this about you. This is about our basic health and wellbeing.

Read the link. Consider what all of the world's medical experts have to say, and make up your own mind.

Don't engage us in the discussion. Keep us out of it.

Have the courage to look for yourself and make your own enquiries.

If you don't have the courage to do this for yourself, have the courage to do it for your kids and grandkids.

Now is not the time to be a ****.
 
Mate, there have been 180 deaths in the UK in the last 24 hours ... if you are seriously trying to tell me that this is the norm at this time of the year then you need to give your head a serious wobble ...


Read the link, Fosse. For your own sake.

Do you know what covid-19 is? Do you know how it relates to other covids? Do you know that covid-19 isn't even the most dangerous of the covids? Do you know how they test for covid-19? Did you know that covids appear naturally in our bloodstream?

Did you know that you cannot test specifically for covid-19? Therefore anyone dying of respiratory problems that is tested and has the presence of covid in their bloodstream (whether or not 19) will automatically become part of the covid-19 death stats?

Tens of thousands of people die in the UK each year from respiratory problems, for all kinds of reasons.

How do you know that the 180 deaths that have been reported are actually due to covid-19?

I'm not asking these questions in any kind of rhetorical manner, I am asking them because I think that these are questions that need to be asked, in a free country. I believe that we have a right to have these questions answered, especially where we are being asked to forego fundamental questions for an indefinite period of time.

You might take the opposite view, but please respect my right to have my opinion without facing ridicule or insult.
 
I urge everyone one of you to read and carefully consider the information given in link, below.

Whether or not you believe what these 12 experts are saying to the World, I strongly believe that it is the responsibility of every free man to consider and question every single aspect of what we are being told about this virus, given that we are being asked by powerful institutions, including our own Government, to give up our fundamental freedoms. If you don't care about your own freedom, please consider the freedom of your children and their children.

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/03/26/12-experts-question-the-covid-19-panic/

Out of respect for you and indeed my own natural cynicism I read the article... my conclusion is that these 12 idiots are seeking some sort of notoriety ... they seem to completely ignore the mounting death toll as if what is happening is nothing out of the ordinary or can somehow be extrapolated over normal influenza casualties ... utter bollocks mate ... Italy has a somewhat unique aged population in terms of family generations sharing accommodation... Italy has never seen anything like this death toll amongst the elderly ... that alone is enough to convince me that this is both unprecedented and extraordinary ...
 
Read the link, Fosse. For your own sake.

Read the link, Fosse. For your own sake.

Do you know what covid-19 is? Do you know how it relates to other covids? Do you know that covid-19 isn't even the most dangerous of the covids? Do you know how they test for covid-19? Did you know that covids appear naturally in our bloodstream?

Did you know that you cannot test specifically for covid-19? Therefore anyone dying of respiratory problems that is tested and has the presence of covid in their bloodstream (whether or not 19) will automatically become part of the covid-19 death stats?

Tens of thousands of people die in the UK each year from respiratory problems, for all kinds of reasons.

How do you know that the 180 deaths that have been reported are actually due to covid-19?

I'm not asking these questions in any kind of rhetorical manner, I am asking them because I think that these are questions that need to be asked, in a free country. I believe that we have a right to have these questions answered, especially where we are being asked to forego fundamental questions for an indefinite period of time.

You might take the opposite view, but please respect my right to have my opinion without facing ridicule or insult.

COVID19 is a designation, it is formed from Corona virus and is Designated as the 19 version.
It relates to other Corona viruses by virtue of the fact they are all the same virus but different strains.
One of your "experts" talks 0f 20,30,40 deaths per day, are you aware that Italy has seen over 900 deaths in a day, Spain are averaging around 470 deaths per day but have been well above 500, the UK is bouncing between 170 and 380 deaths per day. How does this compare to you're "experts" assessment?
 
Out of respect for you and indeed my own natural cynicism I read the article... my conclusion is that these 12 idiots are seeking some sort of notoriety ... they seem to completely ignore the mounting death toll as if what is happening is nothing out of the ordinary or can somehow be extrapolated over normal influenza casualties ... utter bollocks mate ... Italy has a somewhat unique aged population in terms of family generations sharing accommodation... Italy has never seen anything like this death toll amongst the elderly ... that alone is enough to convince me that this is both unprecedented and extraordinary ...

I can't remember the article where I read it, but the gist of it was that when you compare the average death rates in Italy, area by area, to this year's death rates they do not match up with the published death rates for covid-19. They are far, far worse this year. This has nothing to do with a cover up either. It's just that the hospitals and authorities are so swamped because they have never seen anything on this scale before in modern times. The systems are not set up to cope with this level of devastation. The final numbers are going to be horrific. Probably down to this bad flu we're having right now <doh>
 
Let me humour HiaG for merely a few seconds, let's say we suddenly believe all his bolloxs and the threats to our freedom...

We've just converted a building to what will be the biggest hospital in the world.

Everyone has weeks if not months off work and will be paid 80% of their normal wage.

Paid to stay at home!

We've got something like a million volunteers come forward.

The enviromentalists will be happy with all airplanes grounded, and cars sitting idle in drive ways.

We will have more ventilators than we have ever had.

In countries across the world we are seeing people come together as one.

Well for a conspiracy which HiaG is trying to suggest, I see more positives then negatives <whistle>
 
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