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70% of those in intensive care are overweight/obese/clinically obese, regardless of age. Johnson is considerably heavier than Whitty or Hancock, and he’s the one who got it bad. Will the government extend its at risk criteria to those with a BMI of over 25 (overweight - 36% of the adult population) or 30 (obese - 29% of the adult population). I doubt it because the numbers are scary and because people will get offended. (I am well aware that BMI is not a great measure in all circumstances, but I don’t think many of those in the population falling into these categories are professional rugby players or heavyweight boxers).

BMI is a rubbish calculation for health.......though in your case Stan, might be worth checking mate
 
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What investigation?. His remarks have been published and played in the media. Probably not in full I accept but short of getting the full transcript of what he said what more will the investigation reveal. It is a matter for the person who takes the risk to decide hat is safest for him/her not for a politician trying to evade responsibility for a shortage of vital ppe. After all its not as though they are hoarding it and making a killing by selling it to the public as a nice little earner on the side..
They have already set up an inquiry (ongoing of course). this is natural. Re PPE shortage have a quick read of the WHO article I posted.
Right wheres that remote!
 
BMI is a rubbish calculation for health.......though in your case Stan, might be worth checking mate
Oi Oi, 21.7 this morning according to my doubtless inaccurate flashy scales. I go on body fat mate, though that would be too scary for many porkers. BMI is not a health indicator, but the vast majority of people with BMI 30+ will be carrying a lot of fat, and even if they have no diagnosed health issues their lungs will be working harder to carry weight that their skeleton wasn’t designed for.

Not a proper survey, but are you seeing any trends/similarities in the people you are taking to hospital with suspected coronavirus?
 
And are there any medical checks on arrival or are people free to leave and go where they please

Sadly other than random temperature checks, most are free to leave and jump on the tube. It is a farce. No wonder the UK number of deaths is increasing. There is no quarantine other than those overtly displaying symptoms.

The Government should shut off international flights and in particular from Corona hotspots such as the US. We are inviting greater infection spread otherwise.
 
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Oi Oi, 21.7 this morning according to my doubtless inaccurate flashy scales. I go on body fat mate, though that would be too scary for many porkers. BMI is not a health indicator, but the vast majority of people with BMI 30+ will be carrying a lot of fat, and even if they have no diagnosed health issues their lungs will be working harder to carry weight that their skeleton wasn’t designed for.

Not a proper survey, but are you seeing any trends/similarities in the people you are taking to hospital with suspected coronavirus?

Well we are leaving more people at home than usual.....eg with increased RR, PR, low SATs etc that would normally warrant a trip to hospital.Its all about risk v reward and we have plenty of flow charts to look at who goes and who stays.....
Obviously age is our main concern, anyone over 65 would be more likely to go in, as would RR over 30. Anyone with underlying conditions like COPD is also a big red flag.
 
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The government might be pressurising the advisers, but the scientific advice is genuinely not consistent because there is still a lack of evidence, and the government still needs to set the priority. It’s chosen the protect the NHS, presumably because the analysis of not doing this was so terrifying as to make recession, or even depression, an acceptable alternative.

Perhaps they need to work out how to articulate that to the great unwashed?
 
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I’m still finding it totally bizarre that I’m not allowed to go and sit down in the park on my own.......but I’m allowed to go for a run on the spot in the self same park while not on my own.
 
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I’m still finding it totally bizarre that I’m not allowed to go and sit down in the park on my own.......but I’m allowed to go for a run on the spot in the self same park while not on my own.

If you sit in the park sunbathing everyone else will see it and do the same. Suddenly you have loads more people about potentially spreading it. If you're walking or jogging you are moving along.
 
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If you sit in the park sunbathing everyone else will see it and do the same. Suddenly you have loads more people about potentially spreading it. If you're walking or jogging you are moving along.

I’m running on the spot.....in an empty park. Not a soul about about other than me and the good old friendly bobby (standing 1 meter away)
 
I’m still finding it totally bizarre that I’m not allowed to go and sit down in the park on my own.......but I’m allowed to go for a run on the spot in the self same park while not on my own.

Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?
I don't get all this supposed confusion.
It's pretty clear what we're being asked to do and not do.
They don't want people hanging around hence being asked not to just sit somewhere.

That video of the stupid woman taking the piss by wanting to sit on a bench for hours on end simply demonstrated what the authorities are up against with some morons.

It can't be an exact science, but we all know what's expected of us eh?
 
Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?
I don't get all this supposed confusion.
It's pretty clear what we're being asked to do and not do.
They don't want people hanging around hence being asked not to just sit somewhere.

That video of the stupid woman taking the piss by wanting to sit on a bench for hours on end simply demonstrated what the authorities are up against with some morons.

It can't be an exact science, but we all know what's expected of us eh?

Well yes it does matter Col. When law biding people who are being safe and keeping distance from others are being vilified by the ‘torch bearing mob’ for doing no more than going out of their dingy bedsits or one bedroom 15th floor flats and getting a bit of fresh air for 30 mins.......it matters.

As i put in my original post.....what’s the difference in the two circumstances I mentioned ?
 
Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things?
I don't get all this supposed confusion.
It's pretty clear what we're being asked to do and not do.
They don't want people hanging around hence being asked not to just sit somewhere.

That video of the stupid woman taking the piss by wanting to sit on a bench for hours on end simply demonstrated what the authorities are up against with some morons.

It can't be an exact science, but we all know what's expected of us eh?

What's expected of us is to not put others in unnecessary danger, isn't it? I'm happy to abide by this, but I'm certainly not sticking to the 'rules', which are daft.