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  1. ThatThereSaintsFan

    ThatThereSaintsFan Well-Known Member

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    Where do you stand on them? (no puns please) Both offensively and defensively.

    I despise short corners with a passion they rarely if ever pay off and I'd much rather we put it in the box. Also I'd like to see Victor get in there (when he's playing) he seems to just stand on the outside of the box.

    Defensively I'm desperate for us to keep a man up on the half way line, if not two men. It limits the amount of players the other team can commit and opens up for counter attacking. Chelsea are currently leaving two up away at City while defending a 1 goal lead! So why don't we leave anyone up at home when chasing the game!?
     
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  2. Clem Fandango

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    Everyone up (not Boruc), Shaw and Clyne on halfway line, and whip it in there!
     
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  3. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Time was when a corner was awarded, and The Dell crowd would yell and the season ticket holders would stamp their feet [hence the foot noise mentioned earlier on another thread] and we'd all get excited. But these days we aren't that successful with corners, and I don't get that excited anymore, preferring us to have the ball in open play.

    So I'm basically saying that whatever formation is regularly successful I'm happy with. But we haven't found it recently.
     
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  4. Lovelocum

    Lovelocum Well-Known Member

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    Matty scored from a corner once. Amazing.
     
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  5. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    I think JWP could if he put his mind to it.
     
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  6. Clem Fandango

    Clem Fandango Well-Known Member

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    vs Livererpool. It was on Sky. I remember that!

    Agree with Chilco that JWP could do it. He is our best dead ball kicker. Maybe next season when Lambert's legs are too old and we play J-Rod upfront, JWP will be a regular player? Then maybe we'll be succesful at corners again.
     
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  7. fatletiss

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    Cheeky bugger! :biggrin: Read my post on the Premier League thread at 9:37 ..... ""I like the way Chelsea leave two up at corners..."
     
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  8. fatletiss

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    er..hum... so did Doddsy against the Blue few too :biggrin:
     
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  9. ThatThereSaintsFan

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    Haha! I promise I hadn't spotted it, great minds think alike!
     
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  10. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    And pathetically, they gave it as an own goal. Of course, if Rooney had taken it...

    He'd have been a surprise player for Southampton. ;)
     
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  11. fatletiss

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    Every game, I wish we would leave two up... automatically makes the other team hold back. If they don't, then you can have them on the counter.
     
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  12. MMJ

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    and fools rarely differ :p
     
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  13. Onionman

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    There's a theory that you should always set up for a short corner.

    Set up for a normal corner and every defender can be in the box. Send in two people (net increase of one for the attackers) and draw two defenders out of the box. To do that you do need to actually take the odd short one.

    Also read in one of the stats blogs that if you consider "goal from a corner" to be defined as ball in net within three touches, only 3% of corners lead to a goal. Which makes me suspect that we're doing just fine.

    As for the "atmosphere benefit" I think it happens on the second corner. The crowd starts to boil. I love it.

    I'm sure I've watched opposition corners with our attackers ready to go further up the pitch. I wouldn't testify to that in court but I'll take a look over the next few games.

    Vin
     
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  14. CBK

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    saints have never scored from a short corner in our entire history. FACT
     
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  15. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Actually, I think he did it more than once. The memory fails though, so it could be wishful thinking.
     
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  16. Itchen Masack

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    Well Lambert is gonna be annoyed. After finally reaching his 100 league goals only to find his one against Cardiff has been wiped off :p
     
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  17. ImpSaint

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    as long as we don't do what Chelsea do (were terrible with Drogba) and always have one player that isn't going to get the ball go down clutching his/her head. With the sole intention of preventing the defending team from counter attacking. It's one of the ploys of recent years that I absolutely detest and it always always works.
     
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  18. pass the football

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    We're actually strong at both attacking and defending set-pieces according to whoscored, which is nice.
     
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  19. fran-MLs little camera

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    Only decent corner is place ball on head of big lad, bang in. It used to be that a corner meant that we were probably going to score....though not as certain as Arsenal....ball to Bould to head on....goal!! JWP is great at supplying the ball, but we don't score from many even when he is playing. Is it just us though or have the number of goals resulting from corners dropped generally...perhaps defences have improved.
     
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  20. RelentlessPressure

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    Putting the whole team in the box to defend corners is definitely overkill. It invites more opposition players into the box as the opponent know you aren't going to be picking up the second ball. I'd rather put two players around five yards outside the box, spread about twelve yards apart. They would be ready to launch a counter attack, defend/contest the second ball immediately or simply hook the ball clear if it falls to them following a headed clearance. I'd have at least one on half way line on top of that. Teams seem to like to put their whole side in the box now to defend corners. I don't agree with it.

    I don't like short corners at all. I'd rather we put every corner straight in the box. Wanyama needs to be in the box if he plays I agree.
     
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