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Completely Ridiculous from Native Khans Owners

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Hardy Eustace, Jun 2, 2011.

  1. Hardy Eustace

    Hardy Eustace Member

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    Yeah completely agree Hardy.

    Plus if I as Peslier Id much rather they adopt the approach of "yes it was disappointing however delighted to have managed to have a jockey like Peslier on board".......the sour grapes would hardly be inspiring for any replacement
     
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  3. NassauBoard

    NassauBoard Well-Known Member

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    Farce follows Fallon around, this and the driving ban. I wish he would just go to America or something. He is one of the reasons why people dislike horse racing and for me he is always going to be the centre of scandal.
     
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  4. King Shergar

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    Ye maybe Fallon was a little naughty, but taking him to court over it is ridiculous. I still feel Native Khan could leave KF with egg on his face come Saturday, and I only think he chose Recital so he can get his foot back in the door with AOB :biggrin:
     
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  5. Hardy Eustace

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    Come on Nass, farce or not this is hardly Fallons fault.

    Native Khans owners are looking like complete dimwits to me for taking this course of action, surely just accept fallons choice and hope Native Khan finishes in front of recital for a massive fingers up to him.

    How much is a promise worth in any sport never mind racing, the owners are fools does this mean if they promise to send native khan to a race and dont i can try and slap an injuntion on them to run native khan in the race.

    the course of action they have took is really quite childish, its my ball and i'm not playin type of thing.
     
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  6. derbyjester

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    Isnt KF agreeing to ride Recital, so he can win the Oaks on Wonder of Wonders? If anyone thinks Recital can win based on how he's been so far, they are very optomistic no?
     
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  7. NassauBoard

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    Hang on, if Fallon says to you he will ride the horse in what is the primary objective for the race then you are rightly to feel aggrieved when you have allowed him to ride it on seasonal reappearance and in its big prep day out before the jockey turns to them at short notice and says that he will not be riding it. If you have got a gentleman's agreement you would be furious that he has courted another owner in the hope to get a 'better' ride, and thus leaving them with little time to get a jockey who knows Epsom. They are lucky to have got Murtagh for the ride, but he would be a much better jockey for the horse if they had been able to book him to ride on both outings prior to this race.

    Fallon is a utter fool and he will get whats coming to him soon enough, he basically took the ride so he could get on the Aussie horse when it meets Workforce/other SMS horses.

    I would love Fallon to be banned for it, then his driving license to be taken away too. Nasty piece of work that he is.
     
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  8. Hardy Eustace

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    a gentelmans agreement? an whats that worth, nowt thats what. Fallons only ridden the horse twice and Ed Dunlop was hardly fussed when he was told Fallon was riding recital.

    Also how do you know he has courted Ballydoyle in the hope to get the ride on recital, i would happily have my house that it was Ballydoyle who approached him. Seems to me like your letting your ill feeling towards Fallon cloud your judgement on this.
     
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  9. derbyjester

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    not a fallon fan then?! ;o) I don't think what he's done is very honorable lets say, but the guy is 40+ i think aint he? If he said no, and Native Khan strolls in last, and thus misses the ride on So You Think, then maybe he wont get another chance to ride a top horse ever again. Its like a Championship footballer saying no I dont want to play for Liverpool, I'll stick with Reading instead
     
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  10. NassauBoard

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    Funny thing is I think Fallon is a great jockey and love backing him when he is on fire, its not about being a Fallon fan, its about whether agreeing to ride a horse is a binding agreement or not. I think you will find that even agreeing by word of mouth is binding if its put infront of court. Hardy, he wouldn't be getting off Native Khan (who I think he said was his best prospect of winning a Group 1 when interviewed over the winter) to ride for anyone else but Coolmore. He knows full well that when Ryan Moore isn't available they will be wanting the best jockey around, and that is either him or our French friend and hence him jumping off a horse that he agreed to ride.

    Derbyjester, if the said player had already agreed to join Reading, trained for them, played for them and then at the last minute fled for Liverpool before they met in a cup final then yes its the same!!!
     
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  11. King Shergar

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    Contraversy does follow him around, first of all he got a ban for pulling fellow jockey Stuart Webster from a horse, then he gets caught giving Henry Cecil's mrs one, then there was the race fixing and the drugs scandals, and now it's a driving ban! Though I'm not realy sure giving your word and then going against it is an offence, even though it's very disrespectful :biggrin:
     
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    Maybe, but its a grey area legally.....I guess you're talking about morals NB, and I do agree with you completely on the moral code. I wont be backing Recital even if I fancied him, because I like good stories in Racing, and that wouldnt be one at all. It would be funny if Native Khan won actually, I hope he doesnt though!
     
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    Poor form by the owners, they are symptomatic of today's "win at all costs" society. If the horse is good enough it will win under Murtagh, Fallon wouldn't be the deciding factor. Just typical of the media to jump on this and sensationalise it. God I hate modern day Britain.
     
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    DerbyJester, if its only morals then he is right to be riding it, however if he made an agreement then he should be banned from riding. I think its the latter personally.
     
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    I think it is a very disappointing revelation. Whatever the agreement between them this is a totally unnecessary step. It can hardly fill Johnny Murtagh, a very very able deputy i might add, with any great confidence. He deserves the owners full support, as does Ed Dunlop. It seems like he is very bitter about Fallon's decision but i fail to see what he achieves by taking this action, aside from trying to get Fallon banned from riding in the race, which smacks of very childish thirst for 'revenge'.

    Anyhow, Fallon has only got off Native Khan so he can ride the Aussie monster So You Think to win all the top races this summer when he meets Workforce. This animal is absolutely top class and will confirm it over the summer, and i am sure that Fallon has jumped at the chance to be a part of it.
     
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    Are people for real...To say Fallon is 'one of the reasons people dislike racing' is slightly over the top surely? The man is idolised by many people who do actually follow the sport and when he's riding at the top of his game he commands the utmost respect from punters and fellow jockeys aside. Is there a more Derby winning jockey riding at the moment?!

    Regarding the story about the owners, good luck with that ruling folks, I'd be most surprised should Mr Fallon not be riding in the Derby. They haven't a leg to stand on I would have thought :)
     
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  17. NassauBoard

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    3 each Murtagh and Fallon.
     
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    Does anyone know what's happened to Racing for Change lately?
     
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    Three Derby wins apiece, so there's not a more winning Derby jockey riding then. Add in Fallon's 4 Oaks wins and you're talking about the finest jockey presently riding around Epsom.

    I hope the owners don't set a dangerous precedent with this nonsense... In the future Ruby Walsh will never be out of court what with the amount of horses he'll have to turn down from the riches of Messrs Mullins and Nicholls.

    For what it's worth I'd suggest that Fallon has made the right move, I don't fancy Native Khan at all, I think he'll struggle to get home personally.
     
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  20. NassauBoard

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    Its not about making the choice though is it, its about agreeing to ride one horse and being put on that horse at every available opportunity to prep it for the race and then he at late notice decides not to ride it.
     
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