"Complaint procedure" propositon

After recent events, and a number of complaints from unhappy posters, myself and Valley (The other two mods aren't online) are looking at implementing a way around this "problem".

So, I put this idea to you, our posters.


If you are unhappy with a post a member has made, we ask that you PM a moderator with A) The thread title and B) The post number. If that post recieves 3 or more complaints, then they will recieve a 24 hour ban. A second offense will see a 48 hour ban and a third will be a week ban.

I would like further input into this proposition from you guys, and if you could please vote yes or no to this idea.

It will be made a public poll, so I can remove votes from outsiders.

 

What happens if a Moderator decides to move your articles around for no reason ?? whats the complaints procedure then? or do you just suck it up and see your effots disappear into obscurity for no reason ?

Chico, i trust you to make what ever call is needed mate, i understand how difficult it can be so you get my backing in whatever you choose t odo

My vote will be made

 

Guess what i voted for ..

 

Norway - As it states in the "house rules" thread, if you are unhappy with a moderator and his decision, PM them and discuss. If you are still unhappy, then a poll should be made to saction said moderator.

 

Personally I don't think we need this. We have comprehensive rules - I trust the mods to apply them. I am not sure what kicked this off.

If any rules have been broken delete posts/threads and ban people as you see fit. But be consistent

 

No no no no no no and No !!!

I bet that surprises you and I'll tell you why I say no too.

If you mods implement that then I believe that a ganging up culture could ensue. I don't think Dai will last 5 minutes. Don't get me wrong, I disagree with a lot Dai says and I'm astounded at his comments over Suarez but no doubt he would be ganged up upon and would be on the receiving end of ban after ban until he was gone for good.

Far better if our mods used their own common sense and just deleted any wum or plain stupid posts. That's why you are our mods and why we've entrusted you with that position. If that happened to Dai or any other poster they would then be left with two choices. Post sensibly or don't post at all. Any wum no matter who they are would get fed up with posts being deleted left right and centre and give up.

Also I don't see any reason why any mod should have to justify deleting any post, just do it and move on. If the wummer wants to know why then let them pm that mod. If the post was beyond ridiculous then the mod shouldn't even have to worry about answering either.


I would rather have a mod delete any post they thought was a wum and then post Dilli don't be a twat that post was out of order than what's being proposed because it could easily be manipulated.

Eg, I personally know 6 posters on here have their phone numbers. Nothing to stop me to pm a mod saying I don't like someone's post, request a ban and text 2 other to send in similar pm's. Now I wouldn't do that and it is just an example, but it could happen.


Please please please do not implement this idea mods I beseech you.

 

PS, I think Musty, Valley, Ash and Neveroff are a bunch of bellends

 

Sadly, just deleting posts isn't working though, is it! There have been 3 derailments in the past couple of days, with posters saying it's the last straw. Something needs to be done.

 

Very frustrating Ash I agree 100% but if you go down that road it could lead to anything.

We don't want to get to the point of no return. I've had quite a few pm's from people asking how to best put up with Dai so I know he's really annoying quite a lot of people.

I quite liked what Norway did the other day, he really pulled him up on things and went to town on him. Perhaps that might be the way to go and say if you live by the sword then you can die by the sword too.

What's really concerning for me is the way Ivor has been with him lately. Now I've always considered Ivor a very considered and level headed poster (still do too) but Ivor has been openly hostile and rude. Now that's not Ivor so I do agree that something needs to be done and quick but lets not have a witch hunt against Dai.

Perhaps one of the mods could start a thread that is aimed at Dai and asks how many posters have had enough and want him to stop this Liverpool love in. Ask everyone who feels strongly enough to put their name down on that thread and ask him to pack it in once and for all. Just a thought that's all.

 

Don't worry Dilli, it was just an idea that sprung up, and that's why it was put to a vote to allow others their opinion on this suggestion, and whether they agreed or disagreed, or had any suggestions of their own

 

I am going to say no, because as stated above, a ganging up situation could result and that again is unfair. I don`t visit here as much as I used to, mainly because threads are so often going off topic, and being derailed by a certain lover of the strange northern accent. I won`t name names here, but we all know who you are Dai?

The mods job is to ensure the board runs smoothly, without animosity etc. If threads get derailed or go blatantly off topic, surely you can give the culprit(s) a warning, and if it persists, a ban.

 

That's the point swanee......Dai would have been banned three times over by now.

People need to remember that we can't be here every minute of every day. Quite often, a thread goes off topic, and when we see that, ours gone too far to get back on topic.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but something needs to be sorted because when level headed posters lose their temper, we know something is wrong.

 

If the poster is making himself look a div then I'm sure the sensible posters will recognise that and ignore or inform him of his failings .Free speech means just that how ever unpalatable it is to some but don't forget it's works two ways .
There is a trend ,when a certain individual loads the gun then stands back watching the fall out once the triggers pulled he disappears , he doesn't deserve the attention he gets & he's the one alienating himself so leave it to the mods to sort out imo

 

Spot on, this was my initial reaction when Ivor let rip, as he is a poster who never gets involved in the tit for tattle. (at least not since Ive been on here)

 

Would anyone object then if I put a thread that's basically a petition asking Dai to stop wumming ?

If everyone who feels strongly enough put their names down then there's no excuse for Dai and it would also be something that our mods could use as a reference if/when they delete any posts

 

Carry on dill.

 

Chico. I have given my opinion, but will go along with what you chaps decide

 

All yours Dill

 

Well i have to say, its alright saying you cant be here every minute of every day but there are 4 MODS on our board so it should be pretty much covered !!

I think Swanee hit the nail on the head to be fair, the MODS must manage the problems as and when they arise, there are enough of you now so it shouldn't be a problem, the biggest thing is communication with posters, if you just go and do somethinf off your own back and dont explain why there very often becomes problem, if you have warned somebody and then tell them "look mate i have been fair and i have warned you, the next time it is a temp ban,yso your choice" everyone knows where they stand.

It doesnt need to be cloak and dagger just be up front with people, if they have a problem with you then pass them onto the next MOD and so on! its a common sense job but sometimes people get a bit light headed with a power trip, as long as the MODS communicate their actions as and when its no problem, do it on the forum as well, so others see the conversations and see tht you have been impartial .

If we do everything by commitee then **** all gets done !

 

Dilli, I wasn't openly hostile and rude, I was openly hostile and factual. For some time now I've been biting the bullet and not enjoying this forum. 99% of the reason for this is Dai. It got so bad I seriously thought about quitting and then thought, why should I?

He is the cause of most of the aggro on here so I thought I would post my thoughts rather than quit. I respect most of the posters on here and their opinions, even if I disagree with them. We all have a right to hold an opinion and express it, which is the object, and fun, of a forum. I have lived my life trying to adhere to the principle of never bursting another man's bubble. That principle does not apply to planks.

Now, I'm not accusing Dai of being a plank but some of his recent posts give that impression. He knows that his views about Rodgers and all things Liverpool, upset many posters on this board. Yet he deliberately persists in posting them and it has become obvious that it is an action on his part calculated to provoke and annoy. Can you believe his views on Suarez for instance? Surely no one could be that stupid, that idiotic, yet, once again, he is allowed to get away with it.

I find his snide and sneering posts offensive in the extreme. Some people here shrug their shoulders and say, "Well that's just Dai". Not me, not for a minute longer. I doubt he would adopt that attitude in a face to face debate because someone would plainly and simply deck him. He's a cyber coward hiding behind his keyboard. He knows what he is doing and obviously derives pleasure from upsetting people. You might have noticed that Norway blasted him as well. Good for him and my post was partly in support.

I'm waiting to see how things pan out but if this guy isn't reined in by the mods, I'm off. As I get older my choices in life diminish. One of the choices that does remain, however, is who I choose to spend my time with. I do not intend to spend it, even by remote association, with the likes of him.