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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    Personally if this is true I'd tell Papisse to forget a pay rise.
    On the back of a generally poor season, no player should have the plums to ask for more money.
    He needs to start scoring more on the pitch before he asks for an increase.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...but-not-a-shirt-covered-in-wonga-8652995.html


    Papiss Cissé is ready to tell Newcastle that he wants a pay rise to stay at the club. The Senegalese forward's future on Tyneside has been cast into doubt, with the player letting officials at St James' Park know that he does not want to wear the strip next season with the sponsorship deal of Wonga on the front.


    The Independent revealed in October last year that the £24m sponsorship deal with the payday lending company would cause problems for the Muslim players at the club.

    Under Sharia law, a Muslim is not allowed to benefit from lending money or receiving money from someone. This means that earning interest is not allowed. Wonga's deal drew heavy criticism because of an interest rate that, when stretched over the course of a full year, would work out at 4,212 per cent.

    Newcastle do not intend to deal with the problem until their players return to training at the start of next month. However, in a new twist, Cissé, who was linked with the Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala at the end of last month, is eager for talks to begin over an improved deal to stay.

    Cissé moved to Newcastle in the January transfer window of 2012 and signed a five-and-a-half-year contract believed to be worth around £2m per year. The striker now feels his goalscoring record is such that he should be among the top-paid players at the club.

    The 28-year-old moved from SC Freiburg for £10m and has scored 26 goals in the 18 months he has been a Newcastle player. After the transfer of Demba Ba to Chelsea for £7m during the last January transfer window, Cissé became Newcastle's main striking option and scored crucial goals against Stoke and Fulham to help keep the club in the Premier League. He also scored four goals in Newcastle's run to the quarter-finals of the Europa League.

    His stance on not wearing a Wonga shirt on religious and ethical grounds is problematic for Newcastle, who are still weighing up their options concerning the situation. The former Tottenham forward Frédéric Kanouté was allowed to wear an unbranded shirt after he refused to wear the logo for the 888.com gambling website on religious grounds when he played for Seville.

    Wonga is keen to avoid unwanted controversy and in efforts to placate Newcastle supporters unhappy with the sponsorship deal has removed the Sports Direct logo that was on top of the Gallowgate End stand and given St James' Park its original name back after an attempt to call the ground after owner Mike Ashley's sportswear chain.

    Newcastle believe criticism of the deal is unfair, given that they were previously sponsored by Virgin Money and Premier League clubs have deals with financial organisations and betting companies have also featured on shirts in the past.

    Wonga already has sponsorship deals with Blackpool in the Championship and Hearts in the Scottish Premier League, but its four-year agreement with Newcastle – the away shirt with Wonga on the front has already been released – has provoked the most controversy.

    Newcastle have two other practising Muslims in their squad in Hatem Ben Arfa and Cheick Tioté, but so far neither of those players has expressed a desire not to wear the new shirt next season.

    Club officials were delighted with the size of the deal with Wonga, which is substantially bigger than the previous sponsorship contract with Virgin Money. Part of the increased finance will go on squad development and may also be significant as Cissé seeks an improved deal.

    Fabricio Coloccini remains the club's best paid player on more than £60,000 a week, significantly more than Cissé. Newcastle have proved in the past they will not be swayed on their own player valuation. Their manager, Alan Pardew, admitted at the end of last season that he wants two new strikers at the club for the start of next season to support Cissé. Andy Carroll, whom Liverpool are eager to offload, remains a potential target.
     
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  2. Freddd

    Freddd Well-Known Member

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    Not a shred of substantiation of anything said in the article. Donkey ****e.

    As for Cisse, the two half season he has ben played as a striker, he has scored more than 10 goals each time. He is probably a 20 goal a year striker (who is frustrating because he has chances to score 35). A 20 goal a season striker is worth a decent chunk
     
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  3. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Looks like horseshite, like most of the stories we are seeing at present. Nature of journos having little to write about. If there was any substance, he can forget it. Earn a payrise would be my response.
     
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  4. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    never trust a person that can't spell his own name correctly FFS <doh>

    it's not that Hhardy is it, idiot
     
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  5. jimileysbaldhead

    jimileysbaldhead Well-Known Member

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    I think we should give him pay rise and if he doesn't score 20 goals next season Ashley should ask for it back, plus interest...<whistle>
     
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  6. Darth Gogledd

    Darth Gogledd Well-Known Member

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    Nothing in the story, so I don't believe it.

    That said, if it is true, cisse can go shove any thoughts of a payrise so far up his arse that he can use them to challenge for headers...
     
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  7. Graham Carr's Binoculars

    Graham Carr's Binoculars Well-Known Member

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    Have to say that I doubt this is true mainly because Cisse always looks like he loves playing for us in my opinion. He always gives a 100% and I reckon he'll get 15-20 league goals next year if Pardew allows him the whole season as a striker.
     
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  8. Brian Storm

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    I know i've been on this board a few times saying Cisse is not good enough to be your number one striker. But if he is asking for more money you should sell him as clearly he thinks he's better than he is and that is an attitude that's been rotting sunderland from the inside. If true get shot as fast as you can. You can attract much better anyway, it would be no loss.
     
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    Bent and Gyan loved playing for us... Apparently.
     
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  10. Freddd

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    A lot of people on this board seriously under value Cisse.

    He scores 10 - 12 goals per half season: there aren't many in the league that can do that. People moan on about the number of chances he misses. That frankly is a meaningless statistic - - the team that misses the most chances doesn't lose the match; the team that scores the most wins. What matters is the number of goals he scores, which is a lot.

    I don't know what striker you think would join us that would score more than Cisse. I can't think of any.
     
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  11. Keith Fit

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    Loic Remy. Seemed a bit better at taking what few chances he got. Rather just have both, mind.
     
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  12. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    Seem to remember a certain Andy Cole missed a lot of sitters but
    he had more service from the wings to put more than 40 away in that season
     
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  13. Freddd

    Freddd Well-Known Member

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    Remy is a good striker though I wouldn't say he is better than Cisse. I'd wager he's considerably more than Cisse as well. If the discussion is about wages, you could put forwad a pretty good argument that Cisse is worth at least as much as Remy
     
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  14. Hugh Briss

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    Under Sharia law, a Muslim is not allowed to benefit from lending money or receiving money from someone. This means that earning interest is not allowed.

    But they didn't have a problem wearing the 'Virgin Money' shirt then?

    <doh>
     
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  15. Albert's Chip Shop

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    A very good point.
     
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  16. Albert's Chip Shop

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    As I said at the outset, in all walks of life the time to ask a boss for a pay rise is when you are performing at your peak (sing when you're winning' and all of that).
    For whatever reason, Cisse isn't in a position to ask for a pay rise yet (didn't he have one last summer after his heroics?)
    What I would do is say, look Papisse... I'll give you £50k for every goal you score up to 20 EPL goals. Above 20 and you get £100k a goal. If Cisse scores 25 goals he gets £2.5m in added bonuses which will also mean we are most likely in the top 8 with all of those goals and therefore in a position to pay.
    It's pay as you go as the simplest level and ensures the players give it their all.
     
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  17. Keith Fit

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    Hmm. How many did Benteke score?!
     
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  18. Rafa's Championship Party

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    Think this story is rubbish, just looking for a story out of the Wonga row.
     
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  19. Freddd

    Freddd Well-Known Member

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    All very sensible comments.

    Shows how desperate we are for anything football related that we lavish all this thought on an article we all agree is completely invented cobblers
     
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  20. Darth Gogledd

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    Seems logical, but then there's another issue. Say we sign PEA or Carroll or any other striker who starts to get game time. All of a sudden, Cisse isn't playing, and is earning nothing. My guess is he won't be best pleased with that...
     
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