https://theintercept.com/2015/09/09/makers-zero-dark-thirty-seduced-cia-tequila-fake-earrings Re the propaganda movie Zero Dark Thirty "From the moment it premiered in 2012, the film by Kathryn Bigelow and Mark Boal about the hunt for Osama bin Laden has been criticized as pro-torture propaganda. According to its many detractors, the film embraced the discredited notion that torture by CIA interrogators made Al Qaeda members talk about the whereabouts of their leader. It subsequently was revealed that Bigelow and Boal had received an unusual amount of access to CIA officials who had a keen interest in peddling the virtues of waterboarding, and this spawned a cottage industry of investigations and articles. Some Internal CIA documents released through the Freedom of Information Act. According to the documents, at least 10 CIA officers met Bigelow and Boal at the agency’s headquarters in Langley, Virginia, as well as at hotels and restaurants in Washington D.C. and Los Angeles. In addition, the CIA director at the time, Leon Panetta, met Bigelow at a dinner in Washington and, soon after that, shared a table with her and Boal at the White House Correspondents’ Association Dinner. It also turns out that Boal read his script over the phone to CIA public affairs officials on four separate days in the fall of 2011." "But the biggest takeaway from these documents is that even as the CIA turned Bigelow and Boal into its willing propagandists, the filmmakers were turning the CIA into star-gazing dupes; the seduction went both ways. Bigelow and Boal emerge in these documents as excellent co-opters of the nation’s toughest spies — and it didn’t take much for them to do that." All in my head eh. Tbh it has ruined US movies and TV shows for me #sellingTorture
Of course, I only posted it because of the fact people think I am batshit mental if I say the CIA and Hollywood are in bed together. If they are in hollywood then they are in news media I mean I am batshit mental, but I was correct in this case
Never!!!. and I thought U571 was historically accurate, except for the fact it was the British who boarded the U boat and captured the enigma machine and cracked the code etc. In fact the whole film was Hollywood bullshit at its best. Only outdone by Braveheart, one of the most historically inaccurate films ever made. William Wallace, played by that famous drunken racist and Jew hater Mel Gibson, has an affair with Isabella of France, the daughter in law of Edward Longshanks, despite the fact that in reality Wallace had been executed before she was born. Oh and apparently John Wayne won WW2.
The other Gibson "historical flick" the patriot too. Most of the atrocities in that (such as burning people in a church) actually happened in WWII by the Nazis. They looked at Germany in WWII as a model to base Britain on. Don't get me started on the passion of the Christ. Wholy inaccurate. Not a single chainsaw.
It's one thing having inaccurate movies it is another thing when the CIA are marketing torture to the public at large through movies, the only comparison I can think of is the German movie industry under the Nazis.
Police brutality too. How many police films does the rebel cop slap the peep around to get information?
Possibly though I think most works is representing a reality the media don't report. The truth is the cops are worse than in the movies, the black site in Chicago where cops brought people to where they even just disappeared, with no official record of them ever having been arrested. Another department has a tattoo for when you kill a civilian. Same everywhere, power over other humans corrupts you. Not just the US, Ireland's garda are scumbags too, no one gives a **** about constitutions any more, we may as well wipe our arses with them
If you want pure Government/CIA/Hollywood propaganda look no further than The Green Berets. A John Wayne film made to support America's involvement in Vietnam. Every VC has a snarling face and they happily kill women and children. Every G.I has a conscience and love for his fellow man and heroically lays down his life when required to save innocent women and children. All with a rousing military march soundtrack. Ironically it was released in 1968, the same year the Mai Lai massacre took place!
There are thousands, there are so many actors that worked for the CIA, producers and directors, they were not James Bond type agents, most CIA are just civilians who have other jobs like academia journalism acting and so on.
According to testimonies from soldiers during that war, they claim a Mai Lai happened every month, it was just never reported or it was covered up The biggest cause was commanders were obsessed with body counts and the troops duly obliged
There were a lot of brilliant photographers during the Vietnam conflict who helped bring the horror of what was going on to the American public. The English photographer Tim Page was one and his books of photographs from Vietnam are critically acclaimed. Even though he was embedded with the American forces he used to smuggle a lot of film out without the censors seeing it, often helped by serving soldiers who hated the war as the majority were conscripts. He admits he became a bit of a war junkie even returning to Vietnam after being caught in a mine explosion which resulted in having brain tissue removed and nearly dying. Errol Flynn's son Sean was also a war photographer and disappeared under mysterious circumstances, don't know if they ever found out what happened to him
Oh yeah and of course the americans were oh so truthful about the germans. How does china get on these days manipulating the media?
Interestingly, the first people to capture an Enigma machine were members of the Polish Intelligence in the late 20's, and Polish cryptologists eventually cracked the codes in the early 30's. The Poles passed on their techniques to the British and French at the outbreak of the war.
I don't think they manipulate it mate, they probably control it top to bottom. Are you saying cos China does it, then it's OK for everyone to do? As for American WWI history, it's rather distorted. Especially the omission of the crimes of US troops. There was also a myriad of false stories about German atrocities, as if they needed any fake ones but war is a time of propaganda, on both sides of the front lines.
It was from that war they learned how to manage journalism and war journalists, always embedded now, that's why they are always with the troops now, kept out of harms way and just usually report on how the troops are heroes and all that bollocks. I'd really love to know what happened Terry Lloyd. Why it happened to him, did he see something/?
