1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Chronicle bitter yet again....

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Jul 21, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    73,965
    Likes Received:
    40,051
    Our latest signing has only been on the books a matter of days and Gibbo seems to be straight on the case with his negativity.
    I've been as doom and gloom as many a folk but am just enjoying the refreshing feeling of hope.
    It's a shame the journos don't read their previous articles highlighting the stated club policy of buying low and selling high... this is old news... and for me an article ill timed.



    http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spor...hn-gibson-newcastle-uniteds-signings-7465713?

    With a host of new faces at Newcastle United this summer is it just a matter of time before one catches the eye of a club with a bigger bank balance?

    Lest we get too carried away let us remember whoever turns out to be the best player of the chosen six signed this summer by Mike Ashley’s Newcastle United will be sold at a nice little profit.

    Just as Yohan Cabaye and Mathieu Debuchy were. That is blatantly club policy.

    So who is it going to be? Remy Cabella? Siem de Jong? Daryl Janmaat? Emmanuel Riviere? Jack Colback? Or long shot Ayoze Perez? You can nip to a betting shop for odds if you like.

    Blimey, there was a serious suggestion, wasn’t there, United offered to sell free transfer signing Colback to West Ham for a good earner immediately upon recruiting him when it was thought the player became concerned about committing himself to Sunderland’s bitterest foes! Sure, the whole idea is buy young at an acceptable price and sell on for a tidy profit.

    All we can do with the best of the bunch is appreciate the guy, whoever he is, while we have him.

    A lot of Newcastle fans, not wishing to be beholden to the club owner, rightly point out that, taking account of Cabaye’s fee as well as that for Debuchy plus telly dosh etc, Ashley is still coining it hand over fist rather than just spending it.

    However, I had lost faith to such an extent I have been surprised United even signed half-a-dozen.

    Surprised and therefore somewhat grateful.

    No doubt, as I pointed out in my Saturday column, it would not have happened had Ashley not realised he had run down the squad to such an extent that relegation genuinely beckoned.

    Yes, in an ideal environment (is there such a thing at SJP?) we can do with even more recruits to make a genuine fist of it – a striker and a centre-half for starters plus further bodies should the likes of Hatem Ben Arfa and Sylvain Marveaux be jettisoned as expected.

    Two talented players who Alan Pardew spectacularly failed to get the best out of I am afraid – to his detriment.

    From the club’s point of view they cannot get them out the door quickly enough, though a little resistance can be offered when still in contract.

    Star man turned sour Ben Arfa has been fined for being overweight, banished to train with the kids, left out of all teams for pre-season friendlies and rumoured not to be given a squad number.

    The hope is that such pressure and neglect will force him on to his toes and so bring in a bundle of notes.

    Usually it works given time.

    My eyebrow-raising delight at half-a-dozen signings so far and my belief a striker and central defender are still needed is shared by no less a performer than ex-England skipper Terry Butcher.

    Bobby Robson’s former enforcer at Ipswich Town said: “If Alan Pardew can secure a quality centre-half and another option up front a top-six spot could well be possible.”

    This from a man who tipped United for relegation last season!
     
    #1
  2. Beardsley's Stylist

    Beardsley's Stylist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    843
    Saying 'Ashley is still coining it hand over fist rather than just spending it' is just wrong and poor journalism. Mike Ashley has many faults when it comes to being an owner of a football clubs but bleeding the club dry is not one of them. How is MA making a profit from the club (presently)? He doesn't take a wage and all the loans are interest free so where's the profit? If you want an example of this happening you only have to look at the Glazers at Man U. The club maybe making money hand over fist but not MA.

    The only thing you can hang on him money wise is the free Sports Direct advertising but if this was sold to the highest bidder how much better off would the club really be?

    The biggest fault of Mike Ashley is not striving to make Newcastle Utd the best it could possibly be (on the field) given the resources available. I'm not of the opinion that because he is a club owner he is obliged to subsidise the club out of his own pocket.
     
    #2
  3. goldie

    goldie Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2011
    Messages:
    7,384
    Likes Received:
    246
    Christ albert the season will be a disaster if we get 3 injuries and suspensions.
     
    #3
  4. Agent Bruce.

    Agent Bruce. Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2014
    Messages:
    797
    Likes Received:
    225
    They've been kicked out of SJP so all this is just a poor attempt to sell a few papers to some of the Ashley haters.
     
    #4
  5. Fork Handles

    Fork Handles Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2014
    Messages:
    533
    Likes Received:
    344
    Spot on.
     
    #5
  6. Blacker-than-Knight

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    2,489
    Likes Received:
    919
    Mrdoom
     
    #6
  7. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    73,965
    Likes Received:
    40,051
    As long as we don't sell all of our best players then get relegated.
     
    #7
  8. Freddd

    Freddd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    4,517
    Likes Received:
    1,162
    We're going to sell all our best players and then get relegated
     
    #8
  9. Eddie's British Plodders

    Eddie's British Plodders Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2012
    Messages:
    5,946
    Likes Received:
    4,098
    Seriously, we've sold two players and signed six with the money, with cash to spare. Six good players of which 5 are first team quality and one a very promising youngster. We did the same when we sold Carroll etc.

    So, if we do sell one or more of the new players at a massive profit the likelihood is that they will be replaced and we'll see the squad further strengthened. Not a terrible thing. What is annoying is we only seem to sign players when we have generated the money through player sales. I'd love to see a little more ambition - investing some of the other profits.
     
    #9
  10. Wisey's Hair

    Wisey's Hair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,913
    Likes Received:
    365
    A very beely article by Gibbo there. Maybe he's been taking the comments of the miserable twats who post on that website too seriously...
     
    #10

  11. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2011
    Messages:
    73,965
    Likes Received:
    40,051
    Agree. Its a beel factor of 8 out of 10.
     
    #11
  12. Seabass

    Seabass Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2011
    Messages:
    4,424
    Likes Received:
    2,602
    So far this summer the club has been positive about getting in some quality players. Ok Debuchy went which was a shame but always going to happen. IF we did get a striker and a CB then no one can say that we haven't tried very hard to start the season prepared.
     
    #12
  13. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Messages:
    12,940
    Likes Received:
    2,812
    At least the Chronicle have maintained a consistent stance for a few months, which is more than can be said for the majority of posters now praising Mike as lord almighty once more <doh>

    **** sake guys, what's with the three second memory? We've been rock bottom of transfer spendings for like 3 windows, in a league where you have to spend millions to maintain position. If the money that has been spent had not been, we'd have been nailed on for ****ing relegation. People banging the Mike Ashley drum are essentially akin to battered wives. They get beaten, and beaten, given broken ribs and black eyes, and so when the controlling **** shows one tiny bit of compassion (in a completely controlled manner to brainwash the hapless victims) it's like the greatest christmas of all time.

    Sorry to wake some of you up, but the guy is a parasite, and a very manipulative one at that.
     
    #13
  14. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    9,556
    Likes Received:
    8,220
    Spot on JPF! We've lost Cabaye, Debuchy, Remy and Shola, bless him. We got £32m for Cabaye and Debuchy who were the backbone of our team. We've spent less than that on players who are unproven in the premier league. Time to spend some big money and a top class striker and centre half.
     
    #14
  15. General Lee Speaking

    General Lee Speaking Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    6,215
    Likes Received:
    3,847
    The truth is many of these signings needed to be made 12 months or 6 months ago. I think we've done well on transfers so far but we are still short in some areas and that has been the case going into pretty much every season since Ashley took over. If they get the top rate striker (which is looking less and less likely by the day as our reputed targets sign elsewhere), the top rate CB and another attacking midfielder then I'll actually start to believe that the people running the club want to progress.

    I think it's fair enough to recognise that the Ashley regime has some positive aspects to it but there's a hell of a lot of water under the bridge and it would take a long time to undo the underlying negative feeling that most fans have towards him because of all of the mistakes.
     
    #15
  16. Agent Bruce.

    Agent Bruce. Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2014
    Messages:
    797
    Likes Received:
    225
    Don't see anyone piping Ashley off here. What else should we do?

    How about 'the players we've signed are **** and we are getting relegated'.. Or 'actually I'm happy with our business thus far for once'?

    It's more the fact that we don't have JFK anymore to f**k up our transfers.

    Charnley, when in full control doesn't piss about- as we have seen.

    I'm sick of being a miserable **** and am enjoying positive news for once.
     
    #16
  17. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    37,088
    Likes Received:
    12,616
    He is great at it though. The user name "its the hope that kills" was never more apt. Its more than I expected in some ways but I still don't think we've done any more than give ourselves a more than fair chance of survival. If we spent big on a centre back and striker it may look a little progressive but I think we are just doing enough as always.

    That said I think the North East papers are a complete waste of space and the sports writers among the worst around.
     
    #17
  18. Beardsley's Stylist

    Beardsley's Stylist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    1,211
    Likes Received:
    843
    If this was partially direct at me because of my post then I think you got me wrong. I never said I thought Mike Ashley was a good owner because he has sanctioned a few signings. I was just pointed out the factual inaccuracies in the article. It read like a rant from fan on a forum rather than an informed newspaper article.
     
    #18
  19. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2011
    Messages:
    12,940
    Likes Received:
    2,812
    It's directed at a lot of people, on Not606, and not. I think the fact we've brought in so many players, and are still light in areas, shows you just how awful this regime has been in previous transfer windows. I mean seriously, WTF, the board rolled around like clowns "trying" to sign people over the last few windows, and couldn't even get close. While I'm glad something has finally twigged with the idiots in that boardroom, a lot of the money we've had incoming from player sales still needs to be redistributed in player acquisition before anyone can say Mike Ashley is owt more than a parasite.
     
    #19
  20. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    21,241
    Likes Received:
    13,740
    I agree we need more depth and agree that its easy to get carried away with the first bit of good transfer news in so long. Personally, it doesn't bother me if the club makes a profit from transfers as long as we get the quality in. Not going into debt would be a nice bonus. I am hoping that MA has learned his lesson but it will take more than one season to prove that. I think most of the blame lies at Kinnear for the last two windows and Ashley for appointing him. Fingers crossed that's behind us, but nothing more than hope till we see this repeated year on year.
     
    #20
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page