Chelsea comparison

Chesney = Cech
Sagna > Bosingwa
Vermaelen > David Luiz
Mertesacker > Terry
Santos = Ashley Cole
Song > Ramires
Arteta > Lampard
Wilshere > Meireles
Theo < Drogba
RvP >> Torres
Gervinho < Mata

Whereas Arsene Wenger has strengthened in all the positions that needed strengthening with sensible and quality additions, Chelsea have yet again splurged on players similar to Torres in that they were quality for their old club, thinking that they will be the same at Chelsea. I woudl say that we are stronger than Chelsea now.

 

I realise your posts in this and the other thread are troll material, however it's pretty weak trolling if true.

 

An unbiassed non-troll opinion from a gooner:

Cech > Chesney - cech is a top 3 in the world keeper
sagna > bos - easily
Vermalen > Luiz - Luiz cant defend at all
Teryy > Mert - Terry is still decent
Santos ?? COle - Cole is so past it that it is frightening. Santos might be good I dont know.
Rameries > Song - Both terrible. Rameries gets the edge
Arteta > Lampard - Lampard is past it, and frankly wouldnt get in most premier league sides.
WIlshire > Mereles - Yup
Mata > Gerv - Mata is good
RVP > Torress - obviously
Theo Walcrap < whoever chelski play - Theo is terrible

 

This is actually tragic.
Cech is miles better than Szcesney. I'll give you Sagna, just, but if Ivanovic plays there then no. David Luiz is better than Vermin as a player, but not as a defender, and Terry is better than that German bloke. Ashely Cole wipes the floor with Santos, who is quite frankly appalling. Ramires is better that Song. Wilshire isnt better than Mierieles, just has bags of potential that he needs to fufil, though he will be a cracking player in a couple of seasons. Lampard is not playing well, so worse than Arteta possibly at the moment. You got Theo Drogba right, Rvp is better than Torres at the moment, and Mata owns Gervinho.
All in all, you're a desperate fan in denial about how bad your squad is. 9/11 of your Starting 11 would warm the bench for us if that.

 

At least we dont rely on the millions of a tempremental russian though right?

 

No, true. But then again there's not a lot you can rely on at all... unless it's a red card a game.

 

Well, it's certainly entertaining. Anyway I was answering the troll who started the topic, your ratings are more acceptable. I can't deny Wilshire is class but undeveloped, and Ramires terrible? :O you high?

 

Ashley Cole still has one of the best defensive statistics (Tackle %, blocked shots, passes completed, interceptions) at left back in the world, let alone the EPL.

 

Oh yeah, an honest warning here, Santos is actually appalling. Seriously he can't defend. Watch him play for Brazil.

 

Cech hasn't been good for the past 2 seasons, while Szczesny was amazing last season. I would call them equal, but soon Szcesny in front.
Ivanovic better than Sagna? then howcome he never plays RB if he's so good?! Sagna is the best RB in the world atm.
So, if Vermaelen is a better defender, that surely makes him a better player, because Vermaelen can also run forward, pass and shoot, unlike Luiz.
Terry better than Mertesacker due to no one knowing how good the german is in the PL.
Cole is past it, but reserve judgement on Santos until you actually see him play ok...
Ramires and Song are different types of players. Song is a DM, Ramires is more of a box-to-box mid, but I would say Ramires is better overall.
Did you see Wilshere last season. He may have bags of potential, but he's already one of the best CM's in the PL, easily better than Meireles who has been demoted by Adam and Henderson...
Arteta is better than lampard, who is past it.
Drogba and Theo... hmmm, I would say Drogba atm, but on his day Theo is a top player, e.g. vs Chelsea last season.
RVP scores goals. torres doesn't.
Gervinho has possibly been our best player when he hasn't been suspended this season, and Mata is also very good. Probably equal.

Szczesny = Cech
Sagna > Ivanovic/Bosingwa
Vermaelen > Luiz
Mertesacker ?? Terry
Santos ?? Cole
Song < Ramires
Wilshere > Meireles
Arteta > Lampard
Walcott < Drogba
RVP > Torres
Gervinho = Mata

5 - 2, 2 equal, 2 unknown.

 

I like the non-bias opinions that are on display here.

 

Chesney < Cech
Sagna > Bosingwa
Vermaelen > David Luiz
Mertesacker < Terry
Santos < Ashley Cole
Song > Ramires
Arteta < Lampard
Wilshere > Meireles
Theo < Drogba
RvP >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Torres
Gervinho < Mata

 

Chelsea are better than us man-for-man. And so they should be, with the amount they've spent. Whether they're a better team is debatable though, we need to see how our new signings fit the system.

 

Szczesny = Cech - Cech USED to be the 2nd best GK in the PL (Behind VDS) but since his head injury, has been waivering.. Particularly his judgement at Set pieces has been a huge flaw of his in recent times. Szczesny had a very good season, and I expect him to push on, and will make a number of high profile saves this season (if the 4 guys in front of him dont crumble).

Sagna > Bosingwa/Ivanonvic - Sagna was voted best Right Back in the PL last season, noone in this league is as good as he is at that position.. END OF.

Vermaelen > Luiz - Luiz has youth on his side for development, Vermaelen is established, and is an incredible defender. In a few years if Luiz pushes on this may change.

Mertesacker ?? Terry - Almost impossible to tell, they will work well in different situations, Mertesacker being taller than Terry, and Terry has become a bit more of an up and down performer recently, which means he could be impeccable one day, and garbage the next.

Santos < Cole - For me Cole is still an incredible Left Back, and does his job well, Santos is an unknown for English Football, but I just don't see him being able to come onto the pitch and perform as well as Cole does on a regular basis in his first season.

Song > Ramires - Its pretty difficult to judge, so this one isnt a comparison between the players themselves, but the effectiveness in the position they take. Song is an out and out DM, and for me he does his job well. He isnt the tallest (which is a problem) but he can tackle well, and has good positioning. Ramires is more of a box to box player, and he loses it because I dont think he is that effective at playing in that role. He isnt terribly good in front of his back four, and going forward, he tends to misplace a lot of passes, and isn't exactly the creative influence Drogba or even Lampard is. Song edges is because he is better at his position than Ramires at his.

Wilshere > Meireles - I think Meireles is quite a good player, but would need to see him in a Chelsea formation to see how we works, Wilshere quite simply had an outstanding season, and will expect him to improve drastically now that he will be one of the focal points for Arsenal going forwards.

Arteta = Lampard - Lampard still has it in him I think. Arteta seems like an Arsenal type of player, but must reserve judgement on him until hes played a few games.. However he could quite easily turn into the purchase of the season for 9million.

RVP = Drogba - On his day RVP is one of the best strikers in the world, but Drogba stays injury free longer, and really is a pretty consistent performer.. If RVP stays free from injury, and finds some form, expect RVP to be a cut above Drogba this season.

Gervinho = Mata - Its too early to tell on these two, having played so few games for their respective clubs.. Both look like Excellent buys, id expect Mata to be more integral to Chelsea's season than Gervinho is to Arsenals, and in that instance i think Mata will edge it vs Gervinho eventually though.

Walcott > Kalou - Walcott has started this season well, with a couple of goals, and Id expect him and RVP to connect on a regular basis to score goals. Walcott in the past few seasons has really pushed on in his finishing ability, and his constant threat of speed has defences tightening up on him, leaving gaps elsewhere (one of his biggest assets - Nasri goal vs Utd a few seasons back). Kalou i dont see much of, tend to be rotated among him, Malouda and Anelka, he can score goals, and is a threat though.


To be honest I expected Chelsea to buy a lot this transfer window, and really buff up an ageing team, and it didnt happen, although Mata was a great buy and will be a stand out performer for them this season.

 

szneznkey >>>>> Cech+boswinga+terry+luiz+ivanovic+cole+ramires+merieles+lampard+drogba+torres+sturridge+mata+hasntgottakalou

FACT!

rrraaawrrrrrrr

 

what about frimpong. frimpong>eboue. that tells you how good he is...

 

If you all don't mind awfully, I'd like to try a neutral comparison:

Szczesney < Cech
Sagna > Bosingwa
Vermaelen > David Luiz
Mertesacker < Terry
Santos < Ashley Cole
Song > Ramires
Arteta > Lampard
Wilshere > Meireles
Theo < Drogba
RvP > Torres
Gervinho < Mata

6 for Arsenal 5 for Chelsea.

Having said that, this is all based on what I've seen so far of most of the new signings and I can easily be wrong. Mertesacker, Santos, Gervinho & Mata can all be better/worse than I've seen, and Meireles & Arteta could play better/worse depening on how they fit in with each the teams style of play...

 

Cech was back to his best last season and won player of the season. Szczesney isn't worthy to clean his boots.

 

Arsenal are weaker than Chelsea in every single position.

You aren't even on Chelsea's level now (or the Manchester clubs for that matter) and ought to be compared with your North London compatriots Spurs and also Liverpool

 

Sagna > Any Chelsea RB

TV > Luiz

Van Persie > Any Chelsea forward.