Just interested on everyones view on Adam so far. Personally I think he has been the worse of all our new signings, even lower than Henderson. People criticise Henderson for not offering much, but he doesn't do anything wrong, he is very young and will improve. I'm worried about Adam though, as soon as we come across a team with high tempo, like Tottenham did, Stoke to an extent too, he might aswell not be playing. Our centre midfield is starting to look very slow and weak and he is easily found out and kept quiet. He has literally no pace to him and a complete lack of drive to his game. There were times when Wolves were attacking yesterday, Lucas is closing down his man and then there is a huge gap in the middle, where Adam is nowhere to be seen and even if he is the standard of tackling he displays is similiar to, if not worse than Scholes was. Maybe I'm being too harsh, but when Gerrard was coming on I was just hoping it was for Adam and it was easy to forget just how brilliant Gerrard is. Anyone else share a similar view? Or am I being overly critical and missing what good he does? Happy to be proven wrong.
I actually have the same view as you. Hendo has been fine, he sometimes seems out of his comfort zone out wide on the right and I think he would be better off playing central. He tracks back and covers a lot of ground, yes he needs to improve his one on one challenges but he puts pressure on the opposing players. Despite Lucas not having the best of times in the first half he did have a lot of work to do because of Adam. By the end of the game I though Lucas was heroic and kept Wolves out of the game. I would much rather see a midfield of: Gerrard Lucas Henderson With Downing Carroll/Bellamy/Kuyt Saurez up front. Don't get me wrong, Adam can provide some good to the team in his set pieces and moments of genius.
I think Adam would be great in a 3 man midfield. In a 2 his rash fouls and lack of pace create problems. But I have a hard time being too critical when he's as likely as anyone else in the side to create or score a goal. That's very hard to find.
Jaesus, I mean how many games has the guy played, Henderson too. Especially midfielders. Then there's horses for courses, we missed someone like spearing against spurs. We have to dominate posession in the middle for Adam to do his stuff. His tackling leaves a little to be desired, but saying that, its a big change for him so I am certainly willing to ait for a few months before trying to asess what he offers. Plus there is.. possibly, hear me out, just the slightest possibility..? that he might improve on what he's done so far. Far too early to judge a player
To be honest, apart from the Tottenham game, I think he has been very good. But he does do better in a 3-man midfield where he can sit back and dictate play (kind of like what Xabi used to do, but obviously not in the same league as Xabi, nowhere near), but then we'd have to lose Lucas to the bench, who for me is a better DM than Adam as his tackling is probably the best in the Premier League. I think he has been the most needless of our new signings as we already had a top notch DM in Lucas but he has still be good. But it is a HUGE step up for Adam from Blackpool to Liverpool so i'd give all the new signings a few more games before we write them off or claim to be Kop Heroes.
he's a jockeying type of mid, best to keep on his feet. His role should be to receive the ball and put us on the attack from deep, our lack of pace up front & sometimes poor runs makes that harder. Alonso had Gerrard or Benny on the right and Torres up top and Kuyt always available to aim at and put us on the front foot before the opposition got set in defence. Right now, we are not offering such movement and have seldom done so this season. Adam can do nowt without something to aim at. He needs to watch those stupid free kicks he concedes though!
I agree with what someone wrote that charlie adam would be fine in a 3 man midfield, very baffling why we went with a 442 at spurs, i think his tacklings not up to scratch and he gets caught in posestion far too often, maybe he´s not good enough to start in a 442 but id rather have him there than steven gerrard as we need to protect stevie. I feel stevie should be played behind suarez or on the right so as we dont knacker him. Not sure what the plan is with stevie under kenny if he is to be employed behind suarez then it makes the signing of andy carrol look a bit stupid. imagine what we could of done with that 35m !...i would have loved to have seen a player the statur(sic) of Fellaini or similar come into the centre of the park. aswell as half decent striker such as demba ba aswell as craig bellamy. By the way im not just mentioning Ba as he scored a hat-trick yesterday i think him or rodellaga would have been great bench material. Whatecer the circumstances i feel charlie should only operate in a 3 man midfield and when he does i belive we´ll see the best of him.
Surely you mean you would like to see a player of Fellaini's stature in the place of Meireles? Doesn't make sense to want him in place of Carroll and have a back up striker replacing him instead. If you are wanting Ba, I'm afraid our Woy days are over mate. I would have preferred a striker like Levezzi, if we wanted Rodellaga or Ba they would be Liverpool players by now.
Basically im saying 35m is a waste of money for carroll, looking at what our best team is carroll isnt near it, that 35m could have sorted out other areas, i still think we need a quality centre/Defensive mid...such as fellaini/diarra (either diarra´s there both mustard) which realistically would have cost say 20m, leaving 15m to sign a back up striker who can bang them in. we got bellamy on a free, and require one more who is quality and prepared to sit on the bench...i dont think levezzi would be prepared to do that in all honesty, which is why i suggested the likes of rodalegga and demba bar probably 10m and worth the risk as they know where the net is. p.s im not directly suggestin we go out and sign this actual players hence why i said "the likes of".
Fellaini isn't near being class, why is he so overrated? He isn't even trusted by Moyes to play defensive midfield in big games, because he's too slow and gives away too much free kicks, he's only half decent on the ball, he's crap at everything else.
But that is not gonna happen because we did spend 35 million on Carroll so forget about what we should have done and get behind the team.As for Fellaini...is that a joke? I would rather have Carroll anyday over him.
Adam has done alright so far and as for the lack of tackling ability/pace debate I remember hearing the same about Lucas for the best part of 18 months Henderson's the one I can't get my head around yet but I'm happy to be patient with him although I would rather see Kuyt right mid with Henderson as his back up. I've said for a long time that I just feel Adam is exactly the sort of player Kenny loves to have in his teams. Yes he's far from perfect and he need sto step up his game but once he's settled onto whatever role Kenny decides is best for the team then he'll prove to be a little diamond for us
I agree with this, Kuyt should still be starting. Hendo needs some time before he should be considered an automatic starter, he's just not having enough effect on the game at the moment.
