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Chances of a top manager

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Eireleeds1, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Unlikely to see one at Leeds and even if we did, the natives still wouldnt be happy. McCarthy was mentioned 18 months ago when he was available and he was poo pood by many here and on twitter. Same when Neil Lennons name was mentioned. For some reason, also unwanted. Since joining Bolton, theyve lost one game since first week of November. Pulis also wasnt wanted last year when mentioned by many as, God forbid, hed play a long ball game rather than the beautiful stuff were used to. Chris Hughton also mentioned and unwanted. Does a damn good job anywhere he goes and guarantee hell keep Brighton up. So who exactly, will the fussy Leeds fans settle for?
     
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  2. ristac

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    No idea but I was all for McCarthy, Hughton and Pullis I don't remember Lennon being mentioned. The thing they all have in common is that NONE would be prepared to work under Cellino. They would not be yes men having a formation being dictated to them and being told that they have no say in who we sign and sell.

    If/When Redfearn gets the sack, I don't think you will find too many recognised names coming forward, anyone who has watched us this season must believe we are a shower and have no chance of climbing the table.
     
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  3. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Many of those above, not Lennon, were talked about when Warnock was fired and were available. I remember well the comments made at the time about them all. As for Lennon, he was talked about here after leaving Celtic. I thought hed have been a decent choice. Cellino wasnt at the club when Warnock was sacked and we still didnt get any of the good ones. He cant be blamed for that period
     
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    Not doubting you over Lennon I just don't remember it <ok>

    I am not blaming Cellino for that period, you asked who the fussy Leeds fans would settle for and I am just pointing out that it will be impossible for us to attract ANY recognised or proven coach as they will not be willing to work under the terms Cellino wants them too <ok>

    We could name a dozen possibles between us, all great at what they do, all better than the last four we have had but they will be managers who are used to picking who they want in and out and what formation they want to adapt, Cellino wants a coach.
     
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  5. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    We all know someone with years and years of experience. Knows every player, can sign them even with an embargo.
    I will write to Cellino suggesting he offers him the job.

    The stumbling block might be that our new coach will want to keep Thorp Arch as it is very handy for him.
     
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  6. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed now we wont attract them, but when we could there was no pleasing the fans anyway
     
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    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    So it's our fault for wanting success?
     
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  8. ristac

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    When as fans we heard that this Rich Italian guy was going to save us expectations shot through the roof.

    Cellino told us we were debt free, that he was going to buy the ground back, that we didn't have to sell Ross and that he had several millions put by ready to invest in new players. When you hear these kind of noises you expect a top quality name to replace McD

    Today just a few months on and it is just one big disappointment.
     
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    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Actually is more a series of medium sized disappointments that combine to make cellinos reign a real kick in the bollocks to anyone who cares about the club.

    Despite the warnings (and there were many) we allowed this guy to convince us the good times were on the way back, when in fact he has reverted to type and is just using LUFC to play football manager as a tool to boost his vastly inflated ego.
     
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  10. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    My original point being there will be no pleasing some anyway no matter who is in charge either owner or manager. Hopefully theres a dream team just around the corner with two hundred million to piss away with a top British coach in hand. Next few weeks, months perhaps?
     
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    I didn't want Lennon, but that was not for football reasons. Eire the sad fact is that it really doesn't matter who becomes manager, he won't be given a chance unless there is instant success.
     
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  12. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Correct Shaks and all the bollocks that was talked a couple of seasons back about giving a manager time to build something is exactly that, bollox
     
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    Exactomondo Eire as we Dubs say...........morning by the way..<ok>
     
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    I can't see where you are coming from with this comment?

    Are you in the no pleasing camp or the happy camp?

    Which owner/manager were you pleased with?

    Do you believe Bates or GFH would have got it right in the end?

    Do you believe Warnock, McD, Hockaday or Darko would have got it right?

    If the answer is no then surely you are in the no pleasing camp, what would make you happy if you are in the no pleasing camp???

    I am not happy with the last 12 years, IF Bates had re-invested rather than syphon away the money I would have been okay.

    GFH hadn't a clue and would have made us broke.

    Cellino I would have been happy with had he kept the promises he made in month or week 1 - I guess I am in the no pleasing camp but maybe that is because as a supporter I have been offered McD, Darko, Hockaday and Redfearn - None of who I believed are capable of guiding a team in the right direction.

    I said to those that backed McD he will never manage higher than division one and where is he now? A scout because nobody wants him. Warnock has failed again and I have no idea what the other two are doing.

    To say there is no pleasing some is wrong IMHO because we haven't been offered much apart from dregs in the form of owners who want to bleed us dry, haven't a clue or see us a play thing and second rate managers.

    I would be easily pleased if Cellino brought the ground, got us in a manager with a proven record and said to him there you go, you pick the team, the tactics and tell me who you would like to sign and here is a budget of £8m
     
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    Under Cellino it will be coach after coach after coach, no chance of a proper manager being appointed


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    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Simply making the point that at a time we could have gone after McCarthy and Pulis in particular, many didnt want them either so not sure what calibre of manager some are expecting. We are a tin pot championship outfit at present, and have been for quite a while. Its a long time since any quality manager would touch us and thats been under three owners as you say. Theres no chance in my opinion of Cellino putting anything more in until FL issues are sorted and maybe even GFH are out altogether. Both scenarios could take a rather long time unfortunately
     
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    Eddie Howe would have been agreat choice as he very rarely gets a bad player and has worked wonders with little money but of course hes out of the ?
    Nigel Atkins is another worked the oracle at Scunthorpe and Saints but is he too nice?
    So to me it looks like Gary Macas the only possible candidate I wish him well
     
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  18. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    That would be the same Eddie Howe who had to jack his job up north due to his family being homesick?

    Anyone can throw random names out, and if one comes off claim they are an expert... Even easier to do with players if you don't mind people pointing out all the ones that don't happen. If you do mind perhaps best not to do it?
     
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    Who would want to manage us right now? The only people we could attract are lower league managers or one's who have failed elsewhere, certainly no 'top' person with an ounce of sanity would want to work for Don Cellino and who can blame them.
     
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  20. Chippy / Glory

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    Cellini won't appoint a manager. Fact.
    Stuart Pearce is proving he ain't a manager but he is a decent coach of young kids (better than Redfearn). Fact.
    When forest sack him tomorrow we could do worse. Fact
     
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