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Man Ud get a piss easy group with Cluj, Braga and Galatasary. Laughable again. They always get it easy. Arsenal easy with Schalke, Olympiakos and Montpellier. City get the group of death with themselves Real Madrid, Ajax and Dortmund
City is obviously the stand-out. Champions of England, Spain, Germany and Netherlands all in one group (although admittedly, Ajax really only have their name these days).
United have an 'easy' draw but then didn't they have one last year too?
Happy enough with Chelsea's draw, Donetsk and Juve will be tough games but it could have been a lot worse.
To all those moaning about the seedings, it doesnt go on your league positions
It is based on your last 5 years in European competition (wins, draws losses etc)
City scraped into pot two because of last years run in both the champions league (10 pts from 18) and 3 wins in the europa league and a good Europa league run a few years back
Plus the failed qualification of stalwarts Inter Milan, Leverkusen, Lyon, PSV and Marseille plus the qualification of clubs such as the unexpected qualification of first timers Malaga, Nordsjaelland, Montpellier.
Lille, Dortmund and PSG havent really been in Europe outside the last 3 years and all three were out of Europe by christmas last season, Juventus is obviously down to the failure to be in Europe since Fulham dumped them out