According to The Record, Eddie Smith has reported Celtic to the SPL as well as UEFA. If he has, then good. I'm not sure if current legislation can deal with pro-IRA chants, but these idiots that sing all that ****e need to be rooted out. What concerns me though is the apparent lack of consistency about how action is taken against other clubs. The last league cup final saw the fans get plaudits from the police match commander and the Scottish justice minister. I have no idea why. The Rangers fans were appalling. Referees are sponsored by opticians. Maybe it's time the law enforcers get funded by audiologists. There is a police mantra - without fear nor favour. Maybe it's about time we saw some of that.
The song that sent him raging.... Paddy McCourts Fenian Army Who else upset him in the past... Boruc blessing herself And IRA chants are a problem
Boo ****ing hoo. Not fun when it's your club getting fingered - in the literal sense. It was always going to happen. The defence of 'Aye - but they pure done it as well' doesn't wash.
Even Pat Nevin is now saying he was proved right at the Scottish cup final !!! This whole thing stinks , as Cossy said last season league cup final Rangers end to a man sang all their dodgy songs ,were the men in a position to do something about it to busy joining in the sing song !!!!
Yep - ignore that it's to do with Celtic singing and point to an alleged incident 9 months ago. Plus you got beat. Pat Nevin has no real allegiance to either side of the Old Firm. He's an intelligent man for **** sake. He wears glasses, holds a pen when on telly and can speak in structured sentences without cliches. Plus he has a history of speaking out on these matters. I was listening to a Talksport debate on racism in English football. They were interviewing some dude called Paul something-or-other, a black guy that played for Chelsea in the early 80s. He started talking about the institutional racism at the club from the tealady to the board. He used to get abuse in the dressing room and he named Pat Nevin as one of the few who had the balls to speak out even though at the time it had a negative impact on Nevin's career. Wee Pat is entitled to speak up where he sees/hears sectarianism and I have no doubt he heard it. The wee man tells all what Celtic fans do not want to hear, the truth.
How embarrassing Cops running to UEFA because they're too scared to arrest fans on bogus charges Frenchman trying to decide if certain English words are offensive Huns creaming themselves because Celtic have a meeting Actually....its funny Murder, drugs and heart disease capital of Europe ....but the songs are what matters UEFA can ban what they like We have as many songs as rangers have court cases
So why didn't mr Nevin point out the sectarian singing at the league cup final ??? Which was a hundred times worse than at the Scottish cup final. So much for the bbc bias !!!
Pat Nevin is entitled to an opinion. I will deal in fact. Pat Nevin lied before the commitee on sectarianism. Fact. Pat Nevin did not hear any sectarian songs at the cup final. Fact. No sectarian songs were sung against Rennes. Fact. Cossy, care to explain to me why I am an idiot?
Rebel - you are correct in that the songs are in no way sectarian. Hell im fairly certain they are in no way illegal However can you see how they could be considered offensive? I feel we need to move on from these songs Celtic is a football club - we go there to support and watch a football team. I'm sure they dont score any more goals because we sing about the IRA. We were given a chance to do this off our own back - we've improved 10 fold in the past 20 years. Just because we've sung the songs for many years and just because technically they arent illegal doesnt mean we shoudl just sing on. We just dont need the hassle
Why would Pat Nevin lie? How do you know that no sectarian songs were sung at the match versus Rennes? The word of a named police officer versus the word of an anonymous internet poster. Hmmmm now who to believe....... 'Fact'. The last bastion of 606. Just 'cause you type it doesn't make it so.
I think the point that Rebel is making is that the songs arent sectarian - he is correct on that point. Like it or loath it The fact they arent sectarian doesnt mean we should sing them though - they can still offend the ears who listen to them, whether we celtic fans can see it or not Celtic is a football clubs - we have lots of football songs
And my point is that she cannot make a sweeping statement and definitively state that no sectarian songs were sung at all. The songs stated above may well be offensive to some - I couldn't care less. The problem is that, while I don't agree with the whole 'mock offended' culture that we have, many Celtic fans ignore the fact that there is a problem at their club with a variety of songs. The problem is of their own making - not Eddie Smith's. There is a similar culture both within Rangers' and Celtic's support that they ignore the songs sung by their own support with the defence that 'they're worse than us'.
Rebel I'm not aware that you are an idiot. But if you think that singing pro-IRA sings at Celtic games is suitable and justifiable, then you are an idiot. I support Celtic because they are a football team. So do the vast majority of our fans. We should not be lead by the nose by a minority of idiots who want to saddle our club with baggage that it does not need or want. And it is that baggage that tarnishes the reputation of our club and gives its detractors ammunition to use against us. So if anyone still feels the need to go along to a football game, sing songs that have nothing to do with football and then hinder that club's football progress because of fines or bans, then they have no place at our football club.
Pat Nevin is entitled to an opinion but I'm also entitled to the opinion that he's a fanny, is in fact not very intelligent and is purly yet another arsehole trying to cash in on the sectarian indursty! He's trying to be to Celtic what Spiers is to Rangers, purly to cash in.
Songs about the IRA may not be sectarian but they do not have any place at a football ground! Why ... because it's a sport and in no way connected with the Irish political "issue"! Also, Celtic are based in Scotland in the Scottish League - again, no connection! QPR have many Irish fans - do we here pro-Ira chants at Loftus Road? Man U have a lot of Irish fans - do we here pro-Ira chants at Old Trafford? No ... so why at CP. Because a priest over a hundred years ago set up the club to help Irish immigrants! Guess what, it's 2011 ...
